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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: cm4x4nut on February 09, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
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For 2013 will be NISSAN
Bring it on Car of the Future :)
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Yeah, cant believe Kelly racing are going in for 4 cars. ??? Glad i got my Jack daniels Holden jacket last year :cup:
Cheers
V8ute
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Yeah, cant believe Kelly racing are going in for 4 cars.
Why not? They can't make Holdens win :) :) :)
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Awesome, Nissan number one 4wd and number one on the race track. Doesn't get any better.........;-)
Was Ford supporter, now Nissan. Jumping the fence already......hehehe
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at least they will be V8s and not the little turbos like before........
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Why the excitement? They will be controlled engines KW/Nm/gearboxes/chassis/wheels/brakes/etc...
Then when nissan start destroyin the taxi's again then they will just ban them again
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makes a change from the old two horse race more competition ,setting them up and getting them to run on various tracks not going to happen overnight could be interesting hope to get to Townsville and check it out
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Why the excitement? They will be controlled engines KW/Nm/gearboxes/chassis/wheels/brakes/etc...
Then when nissan start destroyin the taxi's again then they will just ban them again
Gonna be a bit like Nascar ......controlled engines ( and everything else ) with a bodyshell tacked on...
Still going to be hard for them in the 1st year....
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I don't think it could be more of a yawn. I like V8s but if they're all the same except the paint and panel shape, let's just go back to real production cars. Wins on Sunday, sells on Monday. That would be cheaper still than COTF.
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Are they made in Oz :stirring icon:
:cheers:
Mike
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I don't think it could be more of a yawn. I like V8s but if they're all the same except the paint and panel shape, let's just go back to real production cars. Wins on Sunday, sells on Monday. That would be cheaper still than COTF.
Been pretty much like that for years.....about the only thing the same as a road car would be the door handles......NOTHING else is the same....
But the crowds get bigger every year, so no chance of the format changing..
The 12 hr race is based on production cars and no one watches it !!!
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will be interesting to see it all unfold.
As stated their are blue prints for the current cars. Whilst they run their manufacturers engines, the cars are shortened to the same wheel base etc. The holdens run wishbone front suspension and ford 9 inch solid rear diffs when the production cars run front struts and independent rear sus etc.
So the Nissan will be modified to fit the blue print.
Will wait and see what happens. When the Skylines dominated in the 1990's they were largely undeveloped even though they had 600hp. In the Japanese series, the same cars were producing upwards of 1000 to 1100 hp.
Regards
Jas
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bring on 2013 go the nissan
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Bring em all back. From the Mini to the Lambo.................make it fun again.
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The Car Of The Future spec is even further removed from the falcodore taxi championships we've had since '93. the 2013 spec includes space frame chassis, a proper racing gearbox combined with the differential into the rear subframe with independant suspension. They'll be lighter, faster and finally a proper racing car.
I did miss the old Group A tourers tho'. I've got a photo of a young Mark Skaife with his jaw dropping as Jimmy drops his load on the cranky crowd in '92. I wondered if they'd get out alive and I think Mr Skaife did too!
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They have no choice if the series is to continue in the future. The Falcon will soon finish and be replaced with a Ford global product and the dunnydoors future is in doubt also.
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I wonder if this was one of Skaife's first jobs in the chair ... to look up his old phone book for the number to the top at Nissan .
Anyway at the risk of starting an argument , I'll watch Nascar any day over the V8's .
Because it's not the brand of car you cheer for ( we know they're all the same in both leagues ) , it's close racing I want to see , and plenty of passing .
When was the last time a car that qualified out of the top ten won a V8 race .
In Nascar a car that qualifies dead last can win , because of a different strategy .
And usually the whole top ten can be seen in one camera shot in Nascar .....
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I see chrysler on the news this morn are thinking about it to for the 2013 season
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I think it's a great thing. As gronk says, it's been a spec class for years - all the floor pans and roll cages are built by one guy in QLD, and the Ford or Holden shells are put on top. The doors are narrower, they're completely removed from the production cars. So long as they don't go as far as nascar has gone (with a spec shell, the only difference between "manufacturers" being the paint), I think it'll still be very enjoyable, as well as keeping the cost under control. Under COTF, you can still have different engines, different shells (within aero parameters), and different setups.
I love Production Car / Touring Car racing as much as anyone, but the reality is unless you introduce control over the spec, it simply ends up like F1, where the person with the biggest cheque-book always wins. By having a spec chassis and drivetrain and power/weight controls, more manufacturers can join in and the racing is closer. COTF gives the drivers a proper racing car, that's more inline with what the current models are. How long has it been since you've been able to buy a commodore with a solid rear axle, yet that's what the current V8 Supercars run? Better suspension, higher grip, lighter weight, they'll be a barrel of laughs to drive.
As much as I loved the days of the M3's winning in the wet, and the Skylines winning absolutely everywhere 'till they were banned, I can still enjoy the Supercars for what they are. I'll be down in Townsville (again) this year - tickets already booked!
Cheers!
Matto :)
(I may find Nascar racing boring, but it's technically awesome. IE, a gearbox cannot weigh less than X, so they make it weigh half that, then add the difference as lead plate to the bottom of the housing to make the COG as low as possible, whilst staying just inside the rules. Wonderful stuff.)
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By having a spec chassis and drivetrain and power/weight controls, more manufacturers can join in and the racing is closer
Yes, but it ends up with nothing to do with Holden/Ford/Nissan/Chrysler/Bedford/Dodge..
Using the same everything you may as well have HQ racing.
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Yes, but it ends up with nothing to do with Holden/Ford/Nissan/Chrysler/Bedford/Dodge..
Hoo bleedin Ray! Now perhaps we can get rid of the stupid parochialism that surrounds the Ford/Holden discussion and concentrate on the racing.
F1 has been the most tightly controlled formula for years, but still one team manages to dominate for a time until another team comes up with a technical innovation which puts them in front. Just think what F1 would be like if it only had Ferrari and McLaren!
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Does nissan sell a production v8 in one of their sedans? i haven't looked, but i don't remember one..
the ONLY reason I think a manfacturer should be in this V8 race is if they sell a car that has that kind of engine. i COMPLETELY understand that you will never get a V8 in a road car like you have in race cars.
what is the point.. as julian mentioned.. the idea of a manufacturer being involved in this racing should be to generate sales. plenty of people buy the v8 holdens and fords because they are raced.
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Does nissan sell a production v8 in one of their sedans? i haven't looked, but i don't remember one..
It appears that they migh be going to:
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/EDF0EBAA97CB29C3CA25799F00139BBC (http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/EDF0EBAA97CB29C3CA25799F00139BBC)
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as long as they run the Aussie Flag things all the bogans have on their wing mirrors now they are welcome.
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Here's the new kelly bros race team colour scheme!
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It appears that they migh be going to:
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/EDF0EBAA97CB29C3CA25799F00139BBC (http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/EDF0EBAA97CB29C3CA25799F00139BBC)
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LOL... good work nissan.. a V8 Maxima.. just what everybody dreams about.
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LOL... good work nissan.. a V8 Maxima.. just what everybody dreams about.
Yeah, American skunk works design, What we can look forward to when the falcon falls over and is replaced by its US cousin and "if" the commodore does the same!
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Yeah, American skunk works design, What we can look forward to when the falcon falls over and is replaced by its US cousin and "if" the commodore does the same!
:cheers:
wasnt this the last effort of a US ford in Aussie??
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/3rd-Ford-Taurus-rear.jpg)
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Im sure V8 supercars want to expand outside australia and with just the current two hourse stable I dont think it would be truely sucessful. The only way is to get cars that are reconised outside of Australia into the game. Holden and Ford are so close to each other now that they are almost the same car anyway so it will make no real difference to the racing by introducing another 1 or 2 (maybe even more) manufacturers. Looking at the COTF specs they should be a bit quicker too.
I agree with Holdens stance, "Bring it on"
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wasnt this the last effort of a US ford in Aussie??
Shure was a bit of a lemon, this looks like our likey falchoon replacement.
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/first-drive-the-car-that-could-replace-falcon-20110127-1a5tq.html (http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/first-drive-the-car-that-could-replace-falcon-20110127-1a5tq.html)
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I wonder if this was one of Skaife's first jobs in the chair ... to look up his old phone book for the number to the top at Nissan .
Anyway at the risk of starting an argument , I'll watch Nascar any day over the V8's .
Because it's not the brand of car you cheer for ( we know they're all the same in both leagues ) , it's close racing I want to see , and plenty of passing .Gee you dont watch V8 racing much then.
When was the last time a car that qualified out of the top ten won a V8 race . Actually it is Quite common
In Nascar a car that qualifies dead last can win , because of a different strategy . Several of last years podium guys came form mid to back of the pack
And usually the whole top ten can be seen in one camera shot in Nascar .....Nearly every race the V8 top ten are split only by points of a second on qualifying.
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And usually the whole top ten can be seen in one camera shot in Nascar .....
And then they all....... either turn left or Crash in a ball of flames with Rednecks a Hootin' and a Hollerin'
At least F1 actually has some cool stuff over the years, 1500BHP 1.5L engines - Pretty cool. Ground Effects, Active suspension, Kick ass ABS and Traction control (ok didnt make for great overtaking but terrifying corner speeds!) Variable Value timing to name a few. What Technical innovation has NASCAR come up with ? The Left Hand turn ?? Booooooooooooooooooring. Sorry, I have some friend who are waaaay into NASCAR, I'd personally rather watch people acutally race than Turn Left all day with the foot flat to the floor 98% of the lap. Each to their own
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Hah , I knew I would get someone saying there is close action in the V8's , ( and I said in racing not in qualifying ) ....
I just picked out some random Nascar photos ....
Feel free to reply with similar shots of the V8's if you can ..... ::)
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae110/shootnrun_photos/Nascar/Nascar4.jpg)
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae110/shootnrun_photos/Nascar/Nascar3.jpg)
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It looks like a mobile parking lot, I find Nascar as boring as bat sh!t. The only interesting bit is when they crash and burst into flames.
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I wonder if this was one of Skaife's first jobs in the chair ... to look up his old phone book for the number to the top at Nissan .
Anyway at the risk of starting an argument , I'll watch Nascar any day over the V8's .
Because it's not the brand of car you cheer for ( we know they're all the same ,lin both leagues ) , it's close racing I want to see , and plenty of passing .
When was the last time a car that qualified out of the top ten won a V8 race .
In Nascar a car that qualifies dead last can win , because of a different strategy .
And usually the whole top ten can be seen in one camera shot in Nascar .....
And that to me is not racing.....when a bloke who qualifies last can win a race....even though it can get boring ( think back a few years when Shumacher dominated ), the best (fastest ) racer deserves to win..
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wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are turning RIGHT in one of those pics............ and they can tailgate ..... no wonder they crash so much!!!!!!!!!!!!
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here we go again......you tell em' Jim :cup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBusULuWCoY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBusULuWCoY#)
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it all comes back to the $ these days,
and this is the way they feel they have to go to go international (probably right),
either way I have my regular tickets for the Clipsal this year and the campsite at the top of the mountain in Oct
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will be interesting to see it all unfold.
As stated their are blue prints for the current cars. Whilst they run their manufacturers engines, the cars are shortened to the same wheel base etc. The holdens run wishbone front suspension and ford 9 inch solid rear diffs when the production cars run front struts and independent rear sus etc.
So the Nissan will be modified to fit the blue print.
Of course it will be modified. The COTF starts off as a space frame chassis and the custom made body panels are then riveted to it. In fact the current cars have been built this way for a number of years. The idea of the formula is every manufacturer has an equal chance of winning.
Remember Group A? First BMW were untouchable, then the Sierra dominated for years and years (one of the ATCC rounds in 89 or 90 the grid was 99% Sierra's!), then along came 'Godzilla'. BMW and Ford in Europe had already pulled the pin on Group A, so no new cars being homologated and Holden were on a limited program (never turned up to all rounds). Other than Japan Group A was dead at the end of 1992, so a new formula had to be sought for 1993 and the lack of crowds and pathetic TV viewers dictated that. Also Nissan had their own dramas, they shut down their Australian manufacturing in 1991, while at the same time spending a large amount on racing, much to the disgust of the government and sacked workers. Add to the fact they could not sell a GTR in Australia to save themselves, something like 300 imported in 1992, but only 60-70 sold.
Will wait and see what happens. When the Skylines dominated in the 1990's they were largely undeveloped even though they had 600hp. In the Japanese series, the same cars were producing upwards of 1000 to 1100 hp.
That kind of HP was made during Japanese GT, not internation Group A regs, Dick Johnson was screwing 680BHP out of their 2 litre Sierra 'qualifying' engines. The 3 lap hand grenade they called it, an out lap, the qualifying lap and on the in lap the engine would lunch itself. bye bye $70,000!
I don't think it could be more of a yawn. I like V8s but if they're all the same except the paint and panel shape, let's just go back to real production cars. Wins on Sunday, sells on Monday. That would be cheaper still than COTF.
"Wins on Sunday, sells on Monday" has been dead since the 70's and Nissan have proved that by entering the series without even picking a car or engine to race yet. It's all about brand awareness, getting the next generation of car buyers hooked on their brand.
I beg to differ on production cars being cheaper than COTF. 888 would easily spend twice the amount they spend now racing production SS Commodores. Brand new car every round is what the big teams would do!
You only have to look at what amateurs are spending in improved production, hell 15 years ago it cost upwards of $35,000 to build a front running HQ racer and that was a dirty old 202 and 3 speed.
COTF is the right move for professional racing to remain economically viable for manufacturers and teams, plus the cars look and sound like a race car should. Not like a freeway in peak hour!
Bring on Nissan and bring on more makes!
This! I liked the 12 hour, but not many others did. Hence why it's now for international FIA GT3 cars and this years race is going to be a cracker!
and UTE 701. posting photos of NASCAR's on their 'formation' lap does not help your argument.
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I'm not going to get into an argument here ...
It's like discussing which beer is best ... no one wins ....
The topic is that Nissan will be in . And that's a good thing . If Holden can only finance x number of teams , and Ford can only fund y number . Then I guess there will be more cars if another manufacturer can fund some more .
So in the theme of not getting off track , I will not be answering any more criticism of Nascar .
Except for ...." Formation laps " ... yea right .. They do not form up 3 wide . Just proves you've never seen a Nascar race .... 'nuff said .
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Years ago Bob Jane tried to get AU excited about Nascar and Auscar and look where that went. I was given free tickets and went a few times to the 'Thunderdome', it was boring until they stacked. You need more than four corners in a race track...
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. Just proves you've never seen a Nascar race .... 'nuff said .
Yeah. never seen one in my life! :-X :-X :-X
Hey D4D, I loved the Thunderdome in the late 80's early 90's. Unfortuantly it took a massive spectator hit post 5 litre era.
I remember in the late 90's Bob Jane gave away over 5000 tickets for one of the night races, only to have 2000 odd people turn up.
I drove an AUSCAR and NASCAR at a ride day (Fast track racing) in early 00's, the Thunderdome was a very sad and rundown place then, would hate to see it now.
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Of course it will be modified. The COTF starts off as a space frame chassis and the custom made body panels are then riveted to it. In fact the current cars have been built this way for a number of years. The idea of the formula is every manufacturer has an equal chance of winning.
Remember Group A? First BMW were untouchable, then the Sierra dominated for years and years (one of the ATCC rounds in 89 or 90 the grid was 99% Sierra's!), then along came 'Godzilla'. BMW and Ford in Europe had already pulled the pin on Group A, so no new cars being homologated and Holden were on a limited program (never turned up to all rounds). Other than Japan Group A was dead at the end of 1992, so a new formula had to be sought for 1993 and the lack of crowds and pathetic TV viewers dictated that. Also Nissan had their own dramas, they shut down their Australian manufacturing in 1991, while at the same time spending a large amount on racing, much to the disgust of the government and sacked workers. Add to the fact they could not sell a GTR in Australia to save themselves, something like 300 imported in 1992, but only 60-70 sold.
That kind of HP was made during Japanese GT, not internation Group A regs, Dick Johnson was screwing 680BHP out of their 2 litre Sierra 'qualifying' engines. The 3 lap hand grenade they called it, an out lap, the qualifying lap and on the in lap the engine would lunch itself. bye bye $70,000!
"Wins on Sunday, sells on Monday" has been dead since the 70's and Nissan have proved that by entering the series without even picking a car or engine to race yet. It's all about brand awareness, getting the next generation of car buyers hooked on their brand.
I beg to differ on production cars being cheaper than COTF. 888 would easily spend twice the amount they spend now racing production SS Commodores. Brand new car every round is what the big teams would do!
You only have to look at what amateurs are spending in improved production, hell 15 years ago it cost upwards of $35,000 to build a front running HQ racer and that was a dirty old 202 and 3 speed.
COTF is the right move for professional racing to remain economically viable for manufacturers and teams, plus the cars look and sound like a race car should. Not like a freeway in peak hour!
Bring on Nissan and bring on more makes!
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The 12 hr race is based on production cars and no one watches it !!!
This! I liked the 12 hour, but not many others did. Hence why it's now for international FIA GT3 cars and this years race is going to be a cracker!
and UTE 701. posting photos of NASCAR's on their 'formation' lap does not help your argument.
Thanks for the history lesson I really needed it NOT!. I was there and I remember it well, I had a 300kw ATW Sierra Cosworth at the time, so I am well aware of the history and issues surrounding them. As for Nissan not selling all of the Skylines they imported, if I remember correctly they were offered at over $100k each, which was a lot more expensive than some exotic more well known sports cars of the day. The private imports have proven they were popular (there are 1000,s of the things on the road) just to expensive at the time. You can go back to you anorak now, put on your slippers and have nice cup of tea. :angel:
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Thanks for the history lesson I really needed it NOT!. I was there and I remember it well, I had a 300kw ATW Sierra Cosworth at the time, so I am well aware of the history and issues surrounding them. As for Nissan not selling all of the Skylines they imported, if I remember correctly they were offered at over $100k each, which was a lot more expensive than some exotic more well known sports cars of the day. The private imports have proven they were popular (there are 1000,s of the things on the road) just to expensive at the time. You can go back to you anorak now, put on your slippers and have nice cup of tea. :angel:
OUCH! I didn't realise you were so touchy about the subject, I should have quoted someones elses post. My apologies for contributing to this thread.
My 'history lesson' on group A was not so much directed at you, but the the myths about group A and the demise of it. Once again apologies for quoting you...
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OUCH! I didn't realise you were so touchy about the subject, I should have quoted someones elses post. My apologies for contributing to this thread.
My 'history lesson' on group A was not so much directed at you, but the the myths about group A and the demise of it. Once again apologies for quoting you...
My appologies, looking at my post i was a rude pr!ck. Not neccesary.
Regards
Jas
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Good to hear you guys have made up and are drinking buddies again
I think adding Nissana nd others to the mix is a great idea. Being a motorsport fan I am super excited at the prospect of Nissan (owned by Renault) and backed by Nismo entering our little series. Could be a major coup by the Kelly boys
All the V8SC need now is no rear wing, wider rear tyres and bigger incentives for overtaking!
Cheers
Nick
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Finally i can stick a V8SUPERCARS sticker on my GQ. I also think the minute Jamie Wincup starts losing he will take off overseas like a spoilt little sore loser. >:D
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Finally i can stick a V8SUPERCARS sticker on my GQ. I also think the minute Jamie Wincup starts losing he will take off overseas like a spoilt little sore loser. >:D
Won't happen for two reason's,
1. He is a nice bloke and a good sport.
2. As if he is going to lose!
Just a pity he doesn't drive for ford anymore. ;D
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I agree with Jason. That said, he has said that he wants to go overseas to race and try his hand at Nascar, so no doubt whenever that happens he'll be branded as "walking away from the sport" or some other such silliness.
Mick - skip the V8 Supercars sticker, and grab a Nismo badge for the big GQ! Bonus points if yours is actually a Maverick :D.
(Aside - there's a bloke that lives near us with a big white Maverick. He's got a sticker across his windscreen, in the Ford corporate font, that reads "FR-ORD")
Cheers!
Matto :)
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Does this mean we will also have V8 Navara's running around in the ute series?
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Now THAT would be fun to see :)
Cheers!
Matto :)
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Does this mean we will also have V8 Navara's running around in the ute series?
they already have one in USA - the Titan
http://www.nissanusa.com/titan/ (http://www.nissanusa.com/titan/)
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V8 Superc(http://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/smilies/zzz.gif)
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they already have one in USA - the Titan
http://www.nissanusa.com/titan/ (http://www.nissanusa.com/titan/)
A Titan???....bloody seppo's.
We park in them, and they stick a V8 in one end and drive them. Wouldn't be very good wind resistance.
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its not lookin bad..
(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/04/05/3191262/nissan_alitma_729-420x0.jpg)
Holden and Ford better demand a 5000kg weight penalty for the Nissan to stand a chance.
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its not lookin bad..
(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/04/05/3191262/nissan_alitma_729-420x0.jpg)
Holden and Ford better demand a 5000kg weight penalty for the Nissan to stand a chance.
Cheers Lost.....a new avatar 8)
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and it will have a Patrol flavour to it too!
Engine will be a 5.6L V8 which will also power the new Patrol.
I still can't work out the JD sponsorship? Nissan walked away from the Safety car deal they had with V8 Supercars a few years ago because of alcohol branding (XXXX) was put on their cars. Claimed they did not want their product associated with alcohol.
Now they seem quite happy to have JD as their major sponsor. Maybe it's a XXXX thing ;D
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From one shelia's perspective:
Who cares what they drive? I back 2 drivers for their skill not their winning streak or their cars ... the cars are all identical except for the badge I reckon ... it's simply the dude behind the wheel that makes things exciting for me. It takes awesome skill to drive and survive in one of the V8 races.
Go Lowdnes
Go Rusty
You want prangs and thrills ... drive along the M1 any day of the week. It occassionally has police chases as well.
Kit_e
(I don't like rectangular tracks either. ;D Boredom Supreme. Kinda like tennis really.)
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Screw you channel 7.
2 laps to go in an edge of your seat battle between Frosty and Whincup and they have a 'satellite up link failure'
>:( >:( >:( >:(
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Screw you channel 7.
2 laps to go in an edge of your seat battle between Frosty and Whincup and they have a 'satellite up link failure'
>:( >:( >:( >:(
X2
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and it will have a Patrol flavour to it too!
Engine will be a 5.6L V8 which will also power the new Patrol.
I still can't work out the JD sponsorship? Nissan walked away from the Safety car deal they had with V8 Supercars a few years ago because of alcohol branding (XXXX) was put on their cars. Claimed they did not want their product associated with alcohol.
Now they seem quite happy to have JD as their major sponsor. Maybe it's a XXXX thing ;D
I thought it is a 5.0l limit, the Holden is 307 and Fords are 302, 5.0lts ???
I heard Toyota and Mercedes maybe coming as well soon, is this true.
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I thought it is a 5.0l limit, the Holden is 307 and Fords are 302, 5.0lts ???
I heard Toyota and Mercedes maybe coming as well soon, is this true.
The Nissan Racing V8 will apparently be a shortened stroke version of the production engine to fit within regs.
Bring it on. Im a holden supporter, but this will be good for the sport.
:cheers:
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A little bit off topic but still V8 related - kinda
Whilst watching ABC kids this morning (with my kids ;D) I saw my favourite V8 driver on Roary the Racing Car - Craig Lowndes. Craig provides the voice to "Conrod" the Aussie character on the new series of the show... Thought I'd mention so all the parents have another excuse to watch ABC Kids
Roary the Racing Car | Craig Lowndes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agel1WTFHTc#ws)
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Just wait boys and girls, this new formula is the goods
more brands involved
The racecars are cheaper to manufacture and should be pretty bulletproof
They are MUCH better to drive so we will see racers taking lines and passing opportunities on other cars that can't be done with the present machinery
I am looking forward to seeing what these cars can do on all our tracks
so bring it
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A little bit off topic but still V8 related - kinda
Whilst watching ABC kids this morning (with my kids ;D) I saw my favourite V8 driver on Roary the Racing Car - Craig Lowndes. Craig provides the voice to "Conrod" the Aussie character on the new series of the show... Thought I'd mention so all the parents have another excuse to watch ABC Kids
Roary the Racing Car | Craig Lowndes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agel1WTFHTc#ws)
It's been around for a while. My 2 littlies have got it on dvd somewhere, they both love Roary.
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It's been around for a while. My 2 littlies have got it on dvd somewhere, they both love Roary.
It must have been around for a while, when you lookat Conrod it is based on the 888 rcaing Ford shell, the rear wing is a Ford design not Holden.
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I heard Toyota and Mercedes maybe coming as well soon, is this true.
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/mercedes-shuns-v8-supercars-20120808-23tlh.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/mercedes-shuns-v8-supercars-20120808-23tlh.html)
No Merc no more.
"In a statement provided to Fairfax, McCarthy said: “Our position is that we will not be fielding a factory team in V8 Supercars under the Car of the Future rules.”"
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http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/mercedes-shuns-v8-supercars-20120808-23tlh.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/mercedes-shuns-v8-supercars-20120808-23tlh.html)
No Merc no more.
"In a statement provided to Fairfax, McCarthy said: “Our position is that we will not be fielding a factory team in V8 Supercars under the Car of the Future rules.”"
Sorry, I stopped reading the link when I saw it was written by Peter McKay.
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Not a factory team, but nearly as good as:
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorsport/mercedes-to-join-v8s-20120915-25zgh.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorsport/mercedes-to-join-v8s-20120915-25zgh.html)
Another Ford Team bites the dust.
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Not a factory team, but nearly as good as:
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorsport/mercedes-to-join-v8s-20120915-25zgh.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorsport/mercedes-to-join-v8s-20120915-25zgh.html)
Another Ford Team bites the dust.
yep, and then there were four
This should make it interesting comparing the high tech engines to the relatively "low" tech existing engines
http://ninemsn.carpoint.com.au/news/2012/sports/mercedes-benz/v8sc-back-flip-means-benz-definite-for-v8s-32510 (http://ninemsn.carpoint.com.au/news/2012/sports/mercedes-benz/v8sc-back-flip-means-benz-definite-for-v8s-32510)
I read earlier where Nissan believes that the existing pushrod engines appear to have much better low down torque than the overhead cam entries. I hope that the parity boys do not jump too quickly, but I am sure they will, it would make it very interesting to see four cars on the track, where three of them behave quite differently.
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Interesting this comes up at the moment
Last night I saw a race at Brands Hatch between 2 Lotus Cortinas, a BMW2002 and wait for it, Hillman Imp. The camera was in the Imp and the action was brilliant
So as long as the parity can work and different brands have strengths and weaknesses in different areas we'll see racing, and passing, re-passing and not this procession that we see too much of nowadays cos that's boring
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The Imp used an adapted version of a Coventry Climax Fire Pump engine. You may also remember the name "Cooper Climax".. John Cooper first adapted these engines to his racing cars in the late 50's. Black Jack Brabham won his first (and second) world championship in one.
They could really rev. I remember an Imp being owned by a local in the 60's. Whilst it went, it went like the proverbial!. They were "mid engined" so to speak, with the engine/gearbox assembly just above the rear drive axle. A whole 998cc.!!
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I think having Erebus (AMG Customer) in as part of the V8SC will be great. Not sure they got in with the right team though - SBR haven't done jack in a long time. But hey at least they are in.
Did anyone see the HRT COTF Black race car they put up on facebook today - it looks sooooooooooooooooo cool!
I can't wait to see the VF version of these things I reckon it'll be awesome. Also the Mercedes E series SBR car should look great as the E series shape is very cool. Not sure I like the CGIs of the Nisssan I have seen so far but it could be very different in the flesh
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I'll take 2
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6aXYdACQAALTlg.jpg)
Bye bye super taxis
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In the flesh!
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/nissan-unveils-v8-supercar-20121030-28gln.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/nissan-unveils-v8-supercar-20121030-28gln.html)
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Looks like roided up Camry. ;D
I did hear that the engine makes good power all he way to 8500rpm. I guess they will all be limited to 7500rpm or similar for parity purposes.
The season will be interesting, however I think I will quickly tune out now that they are all space frame pretenders. I really like production car racing and whilst the current series is far from ideal, I believe we have lost something in the changes.
The touring car masters is a cracking class and I enjoy that coming to the mountain every year.
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Welcome back NISSAN ;D
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(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/09/19/1226476/843808-mercedes-benz.jpg)
Ugly but fark it looks fast. Good to see Holdsworth get something that hopefully can have some good grunt.
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how many years until taxidores cant win and they change the rules again
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Once a Ford supporter allways a ford supporter! :cup:
no jumping ship,it will be funny to see Nissan flags and
Merc flags next year on the mountain hope they survive. >:D
MAYTHEFORDSBEWITHU.
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Once a Ford supporter allways a ford supporter! :cup:
no jumping ship,it will be funny to see Nissan flags and
Merc flags next year on the mountain hope they survive. >:D
Apparently two more manufacturers are expected to join in 2014. Toyota?? & ??
MAYTHEFORDSBEWITHU.
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Once a Ford supporter allways a ford supporter! :cup:
no jumping ship,it will be funny to see Nissan flags and
Merc flags next year on the mountain hope they survive. >:D
MAYTHEFORDSBEWITHU.
not sure that to many camps would be game to hang up Nissan or Merc flags.......
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not sure that to many camps would be game to hang up Nissan or Merc flags.......
My crew will be happy to.............................. >:D
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(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/09/19/1226476/843808-mercedes-benz.jpg)
Ugly but fark it looks fast. Good to see Holdsworth get something that hopefully can have some good grunt.
So they DO want it to change to NASCAR... :(
the new victim of the new Nissan
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/vf-commodores-look-revealed-20121129-2aiev.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/vf-commodores-look-revealed-20121129-2aiev.html)
(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/11/29/3849788/vf-commodore_600a-620x414.jpg)
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(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/09/19/1226476/843808-mercedes-benz.jpg)
Ugly but fark it looks fast. Good to see Holdsworth get something that hopefully can have some good grunt.
The grunt he gets will be no different to the Holdens and Fords......it's all about close racing......if anyone gets a too big an advantage, they will be knobbled....the same as it's been for years
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Well, I reckon the nissan V8 sounds bloody good
CotF Demo Session - Sydney Telstra 500 - Filmed on GoPro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTRYV1HA18#ws)
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Bring back Group C cars
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Well, I reckon the nissan V8 sounds bloody good
CotF Demo Session - Sydney Telstra 500 - Filmed on GoPro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTRYV1HA18#ws)
careful, taxidores will have them banned for sounding better
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Bring back Group C cars
Bring back the Big Bangers!
Those Ford Clevo's and Holden 5 litres were by far the sweetest sounded engines by a country mile.
Dick Johnsons 1983 Bathurst Top Ten Qualifying Lap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNqdpVebMY#)
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Winton Practice day today for the new COTF vehicles.
They seem to go, sound, smell and look like the old chassis.
Alas, no three pointed stars or Nissans around.
Tander, Wincup & Reynolds were giving it a bit of stick.
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You need more than four corners in a race track...
One corner is enough. Gets you off the track and onto the return road back to the pits. ;D
Shane.
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The ford looks good :cheers:
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One corner is enough. Gets you off the track and onto the return road back to the pits. ;D
Shane.
In the old days at Calder the dragsters and anyone pitted in the infield had to do a full lap of the circuit to get back to the pits.
The ford looks good :cheers:
Family shot of the Ecoboost livery.
(http://media.ford.com/images/10031/EcoBoostFamily_2012_racing_570.jpg)
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The ford looks good :cheers:
how can you tell which that is? Oh you mean Dick J's one....
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Merc uncovered!
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The rear wing looks rubbish.
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New Toll Racer:
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/vf-commodore-v8-supercar-revealed-20130211-2e8bu.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/vf-commodore-v8-supercar-revealed-20130211-2e8bu.html)
Kellys & Erebus to unveil Nissans & Mercs later this week.
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Kelly Bros nissans:
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/nissans-v8-supercar-20130212-2ea14.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/nissans-v8-supercar-20130212-2ea14.html)
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Merc uncovered!
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3374/mercv8sc.jpg)
The rear wing looks rubbish.
I just hope a coat of paint does make the Merc look better because at the moment it looks ugly ???
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http://youtu.be/dyOXzn4CX68 (http://youtu.be/dyOXzn4CX68)
cant wait to see how these new engines go
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This is slightly pre release so shhhhh.............
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^^^
Certainly looks the part.
Thought today was supposed to be the day for them, but the Erebus Home page didnt have any new news.
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This Years Champ...... :cup:
Renno :cheers:
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That thing looks like a weapon........shame about the driver who is a weaponhead.
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The actual livery is a bit of a yawn. Makes FPR's Pepsi Max livery look stunning!
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427198_556452171039225_1768546693_n.jpg)
The SP Tools Merc looks pretty good.
(http://media.speedcafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Screen-Shot-2013-02-14-at-8.40.34-PM.png)
http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/02/14/gallery-launch-of-the-mercedes-benz-v8-supercars/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/02/14/gallery-launch-of-the-mercedes-benz-v8-supercars/)
The rear wing still looks rubbish, but the Commondoors new end plate rear wing ain't much better.
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That thing looks like a weapon........shame about the driver who is a weaponhead.
Lowndes weapon head?
Wash your mouth out!!!!
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ICED VOLVO anyone!
http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/07/date-set-for-volvo-v8-supercars-announcement/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/07/date-set-for-volvo-v8-supercars-announcement/)
Let the Volvo driver jokes begin!
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Who could see this coming , not me, holly crap batman I have been predicting chrysler would have been in before this..
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Why dont they stop farting around with all these sudo sports sedans and open it up and make it a real sports sedan series..
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ICED VOLVO anyone!
http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/07/date-set-for-volvo-v8-supercars-announcement/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/07/date-set-for-volvo-v8-supercars-announcement/)
Let the Volvo driver jokes begin!
The only joke about Volvo drivers is that I am one ;D
Seems like we will find out if its some B/S rumour or truth on the 17th
http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/07/date-set-for-volvo-v8-supercars-announcement/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/07/date-set-for-volvo-v8-supercars-announcement/)
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How was the US round received by the yanks? Was it a success?
Shane.
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A few of my mates went over with Holdsworth....they reckoned it was an absolute ball....the yanks seemed to like it.......the weekend was a sell out apparently.
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How was the US round received by the yanks? Was it a success?
Shane.
Attendance figures for the weekend where 68,000. Which is more than all the other international(except NZ) races in the last 5 years ever got. So I'd call it a success. I think they just need to organise one or two more races over there while they already have the cars and equipment there
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Yeah I reckon it was a success. I listen to V8 nation on podcast and it seems all the drivers liked it also.
I went and got bread from my local bakery the other morning, pulled up got out of the ute and a bike rider coming towards me, so I jumped out of the way for him and low and behold, look up and it was Jamie whincup. Lol he gave me a nod and a smile and kept on his merry way
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I will enter our Volvo next season.
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Nice P1800 there Dirtpilot, The brother was into them for quite a few years, didnt happen to get it from out Redland bay way did you ? .
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It really belongs to my fiance. She bought it in Sydney in 09 and restored it.
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Its offical, Volvo joining in with GRM
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/volvo-car-australia-joins-v8-supercars (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/volvo-car-australia-joins-v8-supercars)
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Good news ,it can only add to what is a strong brand and increase the overesas interest.
Jeff
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did i read that volvo is using a chevy engine???? whats the point of that
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No, they will be using one of there own donks
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No, they will be using one of there own donks
I think you'll find they don't have their own donk......
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I think you'll find they don't have their own donk......
Confirmed as using their own.
The cars will be powered by a bespoke 5.0 litre V8 Supercars version of Volvo’s 4.4 litre B8444S engine, which is already under development at Polestar’s headquarters in Sweden
http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/17/volvo-launches-v8-supercar-campaign-in-brisbane/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/17/volvo-launches-v8-supercar-campaign-in-brisbane/)
There was talk of using an unbranded chev before the offical anouncment.
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Wonder what the V8SC rule book says about racing an estate?
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Remember Brocky's Ovlov...
(http://www.vsv.com.au/attachments/Image/850_RED.JPG)
Considering he was a crystal loving, tree hugging, vegan, a Volvo kind suited him more than a V8 Holden...
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Who's going to the mountain this year? Its going to be different with those merc & nissan flags then again I don't think there will be many. :cup:
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Still thinking about it Since Murph will be racing, but I've become a fan of Betty's and havnt been up there for a few yrs, sooo come on AMG get ya crap together ..
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Bonnie and I met Betty and her husband in Townsville, Betty was more than happy to talk to us.
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Bonnie and I met Betty and her husband in Townsville, Betty was more than happy to talk to us.
Betty was the winner there, John........ ;D ;D
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Geoff I would say so, she seemed very genuine talking to her.
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come on AMG get ya crap together ..
Give them time to work themselves out. Mercedes will be doing everything they can to get those things up to speed and I think that when they and Nissan do, Holden and Ford will have a fight on their hands. Just for the record I'm a Holden fan too
Sent from the machine that goes..... Bing!
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Just a heads up if your on facebook and don't know this but Betty often has a daily rant which these days is the only reason i bother logging into stalkerbook.
It would be great if we did a myswag meetup for the members that are going, fans of camping,motorsport and a few beers, now that would be fun..
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I am going again. Camped in the chase campground.
Will be my third trip to the race in four years, looking forward to it once again.
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I am going again this year also camping in the chase camp grounds.
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sooo come on AMG get ya crap together ..
They are not a factory team. They are just a customer of AMG. Betty pays for all this herself and they are showing signs of things to come :cup:
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ya, well aware just trust me when i say that amg plays apart in v8sc aside from being just Betty even though its her $$$, ever wondered how Marco managed to get a drive..Bring on Bathurst I say, Betty has had just a little success in the gt's on the mountain :D
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I wouldn't be surprised if AMG fully step in once the bugs are ironed out.
Seems to be the Benz way......
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They are not a factory team. They are just a customer of AMG. Betty pays for all this herself and they are showing signs of things to come :cup:
They maybe not a factory team but they're wearing Mercedes AMG badges so I still think they'll do whatever is needed to get them up the front.
Sent from the machine that goes..... Bing!
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It was a sad story about old johnson tonight on ACA..
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It was a sad story about old johnson tonight on ACA..
I am not a Dick Johnson or a Ford fan, but I admire the man for what he has achieved, and the passion that he as for the sport.
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It was a sad story about old johnson tonight on ACA..
Off memory his financial woes have been going on since the 80's and he always seems to make a comeback in the 10th hour,Apparently he has a new book coming out
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Yeah he does have a new book coming out.
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/dick-johnson-the-autobiography (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/dick-johnson-the-autobiography)
I feel a bit sad for him one one hand, as he has been great for the sport, love him or hate him. But the reality is, his money worries have come from bad business decisions, whether by him or a business partner, so unlike "the rock" incident, he has chosen to do what he has done, and that's just the risk of business.
My 2 cents.
EDIT. Any one gong out to willow bank this weekend. We will be there on Sunday at this stage
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EDIT. Any one gong out to willow bank this weekend. We will be there on Sunday at this stage
Yep, up in the corporate tents for saturday and sunday :)
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Nice. Bastard hahahaha
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It was a sad story about old johnson tonight on ACA..
He always sails close to the wind money wise and has, several times, been close to doing his arse.
I was a bit over him really, poor ol me, oh, by the way, i have a nice new book coming out.
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He always sails close to the wind money wise and has, several times, been close to doing his arse.
I was a bit over him really, poor ol me, oh, by the way, i have a nice new book coming out.
Lots of free advertising for his new book.
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He always sails close to the wind money wise and has, several times, been close to doing his arse.
I was a bit over him really, poor ol me, oh, by the way, i have a nice new book coming out.
X2
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Remember this holden fans
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Remember this holden fans
ohhhhh so it was Dick who stole our rock that was holding up our holden flag pole that year, cheecky bugger :D
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Remember this holden fans
Yep and it's about all he owns now.
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They say he blew $9,000,000 in bad investments.
I'll never see 9 million in my lifetime, as lawn mowing doesn't pay all that well.
So suck it up Dick, ya had ya chance and ya blew it..... boo hoo.
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He still lives in a million dollar unit across the road from me
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I will be camping at the chase as well looking foward to catching up for a few beers
go the holdens
Redrocker
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He still lives in a million dollar unit across the road from me
I read somewhere that it's a rental, not sure how true it is
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Steve just had his property up for auction and it didnt sell as of yesterday. By the look of him at Ipswich he has no plans to drive a v8 anytime soon. Better get on a bike before the 1000 otherwise he won't fit in a merc. Lol
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I read somewhere that it's a rental, not sure how true it is
Maybe, maybe not. Regardless the rent would be more than your average mortgage anyway 8)
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Hopefully chaz and Scott keep it up, but it is starting to become all about qualifying. Bring on the enduros where some passing and tactics come into it
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Some pics I took
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great pics oldmate, have heard that hg run a few times and sounds bloody brilliant, not sure about that last pic though could make for some nerf gun practise after a few more brews
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great pics oldmate, have heard that hg run a few times and sounds bloody brilliant, not sure about that last pic though could make for some nerf gun practise after a few more brews
Hahah yeah I'm not that much of a fan either. I used to be, but now, I really don't support any one person or team
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was really good to see the young guys get up on Sunday.........and whingecup fall over ;D
It was also very good to see that the potential of the mercs is starting to show, I think they are going to end up at the pointy end before the nissans get there which speaks volumes for the effort that Betty is putting in considering how little prep time they have had.
Do yourself a favour, even if you do not support the mercs, subscribe to Betty's facebook page, she is a breath of fresh air into the V8 padock
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was really good to see the young guys get up on Sunday.........and whingecup fall over ;D
It was also very good to see that the potential of the mercs is starting to show, I think they are going to end up at the pointy end before the nissans get there which speaks volumes for the effort that Betty is putting in considering how little prep time they have had.
Do yourself a favour, even if you do not support the mercs, subscribe to Betty's facebook page, she is a breath of fresh air into the V8 padock
I agree with all that Craig. It was good to see a couple of different faces on the podium.
Watch for Benz/AMG to step in once the team starts getting consistently good results........
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I am off to bathurst again this year. Have camp spots in the paddock camp ground. Cannot wait ! Bring it on !
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Good win by the Datto today,
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Yeah was good to see. See if they can back it up today
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Good win by the Datto today,
yep and made even sweeter by whingecup on the side of the road.....shame lowndsey was not in a position to capitalize for the championship
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yep and made even sweeter by whingecup on the side of the road.....shame lowndsey was not in a position to capitalize for the championship
What happened to whingecup?
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What happened to whingecup?
Broken transaxle.......a real shame.... ;D ;D
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Broken transaxle.......a real shame.... ;D ;D
You'd think they could bung in a spare and get it going again.
It was crook to see Loundes so far back in the pack. I only caught the very end bit of it, so missed all the action.
Was it Moppet in the Nissan or the other bloke that won it.
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They raced to put a spare in but realised by the time they finished the repairs, he wouldn't have completed 75% race distance to be classified..............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
My money's on Bright for a win in Race 26 today.
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Was it Moppet in the Nissan or the other bloke that won it.
Moppet
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Did anyone notice how Whincup twice mentioned the Nissans had a boost with their fuel?
Yet the commentators mentioned the different fuel mix was about economy and didnt effect performance. Also Nissan have released a statement on social media in regards to it and claim the different mix is 100% the same as everyone elses mix as far as power goes and have the scientific proof of this. They must have copped some flack.
For me, if it was anything to do with better fuel then the Kelly boys would have been up there as well. Its a game of fractions of a second especially at Winton and the Kellys missed it by a fraction like others did.
Although they are a crafty bunch, I wouldnt mind betting they sat back and waited to see how the yellow cars went. A little bit of foxing and not showing all your cards before the enduros just in case the new fuel gets pinged perhaps?
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I reckon it is so closely scrutinised and regulated the nissan could not have a power gain from the fuel.
Also the nissan top speed was slower than both the Holden (4kph) and Ford (3kph).
I guess they just handle the corners at Wilton better?
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http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/08/24/norton-nissans-to-revert-to-e85-fuel/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/08/24/norton-nissans-to-revert-to-e85-fuel/)
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i recon if I was the boss at the nissan camp i would get rid of the kelly brothers, they havnt finished will in years.
i guess thats why they bought the team and then got nissans, so they can keep driving for a few more years.but its almost time for them to step aside and use the upcoming drivers.
one more year and if they cant improve then they should step aside.
yes i know the kelly brothers own the team and i know they wont sack themselves.
:)
:)
Carry on...
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i recon if I was the boss at the nissan camp i would get rid of the kelly brothers, they havnt finished will in years.
i guess thats why they bought the team and then got nissans, so they can keep driving for a few more years.but its almost time for them to step aside and use the upcoming drivers.
one more year and if they cant improve then they should step aside.
yes i know the kelly brothers own the team and i know they wont sack themselves.
:)
:)
Carry on...
Rick's got talent, but Todd's an A grade spud!
Series points nice and close now! 70 points between the top four.
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they copped a bit more bad luck today hey, got shunted off and then bogged, any other track and he would have made it back on the track..
i remember during the drought a car ran off the track and the grass caught fire it was so dry..
it was held at a different time of the year back then.. pretty sure that was winton too.
Carry on...
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Series points nice and close now! 70 points between the top four.
Edit: 72 points now. Lowndes cops a points penalty and drops from 2nd to 4th after being pinged for one of his patented push to pass moves on Caruso!
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The Courier Mail website today had a piece about Nissan, and how they expect to have driverless cars by the year 2020.
It would certainly make for interesting race championships.
I guess Nissan would be miles in front with the Jack Daniels team being driverless for a number of years now and with this years car sponsorship, they have a good head start.
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Have a look at this shunt at the 40 second mark
http://www.v8supercars.com.au//view/videos/sargent-security-phillip-island-360-race-32-highlights (http://www.v8supercars.com.au//view/videos/sargent-security-phillip-island-360-race-32-highlights)
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Bugger I knew there was something I was supose to watch rather than be in Queenscliff for the festival
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Yeah was a big hit. Courtney hasn't had much luck the last 3 rounds
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Courtney was extremely lucky he was in the car of the future and not last years cars as they moved the seats closer to the centre of the cars this year. Massive hit.
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Courtney was extremely lucky he was in the car of the future and not last years cars as they moved the seats closer to the centre of the cars this year. Massive hit.
Did you see on the in car pics how the hit had actually snapped the "X" joint at the roll cage........poor courtney is lucky he didn't loose his leg
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Did you see on the in car pics how the hit had actually snapped the "X" joint at the roll cage........poor courtney is lucky he didn't loose his leg
I was just about to post the same thing.
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Did you see on the in car pics how the hit had actually snapped the "X" joint at the roll cage........poor courtney is lucky he didn't loose his leg
(http://i.imgur.com/rZCCIJ3.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/GTRMagic/2012/E6FCE44B-181D-40C2-99A1-C6311C67381E_zpse6xlekne.jpg)
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Very lucky and due to the limited side vision Courtney wouldn't have seen it coming.
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Thiking the structual engineers might have a bit of x-raying of welds on the safety cages to do ... Looks very much like a weld wasnt done properly or at all , you can see how the tube has been notched out to fit up to the another and looks pretty clean all the way round on the front bottom tube.
Maybe they should go to a NASCAR style of anti side intrusion cage, looking back a few years on racing sites it seems the X style cages have failed in a big hit at the welds with not so good results for the drivers ..
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Did you see on the in car pics how the hit had actually snapped the "X" joint at the roll cage........poor courtney is lucky he didn't loose his leg
Yeah I did, he was so lucky. Still wondering where Alex Premat's left rear wheel went. It seems to just disappear after hitting Courtney's door.
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Yeah I did, he was so lucky. Still wondering where Alex Premat's left rear wheel went. It seems to just disappear after hitting Courtney's door.
as the "crash" continues, you can see his rear wheel fold up under his rear guard
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Yep, that was one nasty crash. Both drivers very lucky to escape with minor injuries although i'm guessing that James will be rather black and blue come Monday when all the bruising comes out.
What was your take on the Lowndes v Winterbottom incident? To me it looked like Frosty pushed Craig off the track but it was not all that clear on the replay. Either way, i was'nt impressed with Frosty's comments towards Roland Dane when interviewed back in the pits.
He seems to have thrown his toys out of the cot quite a few times this year, maybe he needs some time out. And i am a Ford supporter. ;D
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Wow, this could turn into another cricket thread!
So here goes. ;D
As a team red supporter, but not a Loundes one, I reckon thar frosty gave back what loundes has been doing for years. Frosty has been castigated in the past for not having a red hot go when needed, so I think he has lifted his game in this respect this year. The incident has been reviewed by the judiciary, and deemed a racing incident. 888 have appealed this decision. We will see what happens, but I reckon leave it as is.
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/further-review-for-lowndes-winterbottom-incident (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/further-review-for-lowndes-winterbottom-incident)
Agreed, it wasn't clear on the replay, but I think frosty held his line after he had drawn along side, whilst Loundes tried to move back over a bit.
Looking forward to this afternoons follow up!
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.......... The incident has been reviewed by the judiciary, and deemed a racing incident........
That's all it was.
Agreed, it wasn't clear on the replay, but I think frosty held his line after he had drawn along side, whilst Loundes tried to move back over a bit.
That's what I saw.....
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He seems to have thrown his toys out of the cot quite a few times this year
Same can be said about Roland Dane.
As a team red supporter, but not a Loundes one, I reckon thar frosty gave back what loundes has been doing for years. Frosty has been castigated in the past for not having a red hot go when needed, so I think he has lifted his game in this respect this year.
This.
Lowndes has perfected the 'push to pass' method over the years and Frosty has always played too cautious.
2 guys racing hard with the championship on the line and neither willing to give an inch or yield. Racing incident in my view.
and while all of this goes on. Whincup quietly slips back into the championship lead...
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yeah, I am a big Lowndes supporter, however
Both drivers were at fault, both could of backed off and given the other one room, if it was the last race of the season, then you could understand why they were playing for keeps, but in all honesty, dumb brain fart moment by both drivers.
being a lowndes fan though..........I wish he had only gone back 3 places and Frosty had gone back 12...... >:D
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yeah, I am a big Lowndes supporter, however
Both drivers were at fault, both could of backed off and given the other one room, if it was the last race of the season, then you could understand why they were playing for keeps, but in all honesty, dumb brain fart moment by both drivers.
being a lowndes fan though..........I wish he had only gone back 3 places and Frosty had gone back 12...... >:D
Yep, after hearing yesterdays comments and seeing several replays in slow motion i agree that both were at fault and had a brain fart.
The last round at Sydney is going to be very interesting with four possible contenders fighting for victory on a street circuit.
I'm guessing there will be no holds barred so may the best man win. :D
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so may the best man win. :D
good to see another obvious Lowndes fan ;D
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Craig Lowndes always seems to have a lot to say..
I can see his lips moving, but all I can hear is WAHH WAHH WAHH.
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Craig Lowndes always seems to have a lot to say..
I can see his lips moving, but all I can hear is WAHH WAHH WAHH.
Funny, i was thinking the same thing about Mark Winterbottom. ;D ;D
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Craig Lowndes always seems to have a lot to say..
I can see his lips moving, but all I can hear is WAHH WAHH WAHH.
I can't recall the last time he had a bitch about things ??? one of the nicer blokes on the grid, always very diplomatic.....
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Lowndes fan here.
Sydney is going to be great, I hope Lowndes, Whincup, Winterbottom & Davidson all qualify 1, 2, 3 & 4.
I would like Lowndes to win, then Whincup, but most importantly I want to see more close racing like Phillip Island produced.
Winterbottom is hungry for it, so I think we should see some great racing.
Only problem with a street circuit, is when they tangle it ends really bad, with cars getting taken out completely.
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Yeah, go Loundes.... :cup:
Hey, what about ol Russell Ingals wife... hubba hubba. She is one cutie.
Ol Russ is punching way above his weight there.
Opps, gotta go, Mrs Jeepers coming into room.
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Check out the in car footage from the following car.
V8 Supercars 2013 Courtney Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRDqIrUg18#ws)
Cams & V8SC deemed the chassis a right off... Don't know why?
(http://distilleryimage11.ak.instagram.com/b37a982c55b911e3ab9b121628c378fc_8.jpg)
(http://[url=http://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/v8supercars.com.au/live/images/dmImage/StandardImage/20131123_175023_22_James_Courtney.jpg]http://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/v8supercars.com.au/live/images/dmImage/StandardImage/20131123_175023_22_James_Courtney.jpg[/url])
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/GTRMagic/E4A496B1-E03D-439F-BEBA-DD91AA3657B5_zpslu1htgi5.jpg)
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Wow! That is scarey how those rails let go. James is very lucky that he did'nt sustain worse injuries. Hopefully the replacement design will offer better protection in future.
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Very lucky and due to the limited side vision Courtney wouldn't have seen it coming.
not much he could do if he did anyway. He better get a lotto ticket ;D
BD
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Ahhh I see they have gone to a NASCAR style side intrusion bar now !! Though I think there needs to be a bit more than they have in the new one .
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Wow! That is scarey how those rails let go. James is very lucky that he did'nt sustain worse injuries. Hopefully the replacement design will offer better protection in future.
From what they were saying on the telecast the following day. The designers are happy with the way it held up considering the side impact load. They are not in the pics, but there is a 50mm thick composite honeycomb panel attached to the side rails and then the same panel again inside the door, designed to spread the load. Supposedly these cars exceed FIA side impact protection, better than WRC cars, but they are probably not at NASCAR level.
I'm tipping JC's race suit and fire proof undies were a write off too...
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He is lucky, although he still suffered a broken leg from the prang. Nick percat will drive 22 at the final round.
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I'm tipping JC's race suit and fire proof undies were a write off too...
I'm tipping whoever it was with the in-car footage needed a change of undies too
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It was one of the Kelly's driving the car the footage is taken from.
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Yep. Todd Kelly's car
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Well done Jamie Whincup, 2013 ATCC winner.
30 years old, 4 Bathurst crowns and now tied equal first on the winners with 5 ATCC titles. Not bad considering Dick Johnson didn't win Bathurst or his first ATCC until he was 37. Whether he goes overseas or not, I'm tipping by the time he retires, he will have smashed to pieces every single Australian touring car record.
He has serious balls too. Like his last lap lunge at Bathurst, today he starts rubbing panels and diving past cars with 4 laps to go. Title on the line and all he had to do was stay out of trouble and finish the race.
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Well done Rusty! Thanks for the good racing over the years!
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I'm not a Whincup fan (that's the first time I've used his correct surname in a long time) at all. But after the weekend's race he deserves to be 5 Time Champ. Frosty handed it to him at the first corner of the race for the weekend. All he had to do was, be more aggressive, move to the left half a metre and the roles would have been reversed with Whincup on the outside heading for the tyres. Whincup didn't let up all weekend and it paid off.
79 days until Clipsal..........Sweet.
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I agree with above. Im not a Holden or Whincup fan but you have to admire his will to race and win. Anyone else would have played it safe but instead he took risk after risk because he is a racer.
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Thiking the structual engineers might have a bit of x-raying of welds on the safety cages to do ... Looks very much like a weld wasnt done properly or at all , you can see how the tube has been notched out to fit up to the another and looks pretty clean all the way round on the front bottom tube.
Maybe they should go to a NASCAR style of anti side intrusion cage, looking back a few years on racing sites it seems the X style cages have failed in a big hit at the welds with not so good results for the drivers ..
It appears to me that the passenger side is definately like that, but the drivers side looks as though the lower bar is straight with the upper bar bent like a V and held together with a dirty great big ugly looking gusset in the shape of a bow tie. Even if it is a notched bar join, it still appears to have torn at the end of the gusset.
I too think they need to have a serious look at some other forms of motorsport chassis and cage designs. That's a serious FAIL.
Shane.
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Fair dinkum how good was frosty at bathurst this year.
Maythefordsbewithu. :worthles:
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Well it's all just gone to sh|t........Paul Morris and Chaz Mostert for the Endouros. FFS!!
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Well that's is one ford in the wall or on fire lol ;D ;D
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Well that's is one ford in the wall or on fire lol ;D ;D
I'm going a drive through or two per Enduro all because of Morris. The Bloke's an idiot!
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Well it's all just gone to sh|t........Paul Morris and Chaz Mostert for the Endouros. FFS!!
Strange decision I would have thought. Maybe it had something to do with money............
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The Bloke's an idiot!
Never a more honest word said. Lol.
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Strange decision I would have thought. Maybe it had something to do with money............
Unfortunately that is the only reason I can think of. Mind boggling simply.
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Maybe it had something to do with money............
Bingo!
From here http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/02/24/morris-join-mostert-enduro-cup/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/02/24/morris-join-mostert-enduro-cup/)
It is expected that Morris will also assist FPR to acquire sponsorship
The Morris families wealth is around 200 million and the FPR cars look a bit bare this year sponsor wise.
In Paul's defense (I can't believe I just said that!) he did manage a 6th with Scott Pye in the LDM s#$% heap at last years 1000.
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In Paul's defense (I can't believe I just said that!) he did manage a 6th with Scott Pye in the LDM s#$% heap at last years 1000.
I glad you confirmed that, I thought I saw his large frame in a race suit last year too! ;D
I though I must have been going senile.
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I saw him in a sprint car also a few weeks ago, coming last still lol
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He has a HUGE history of if he can't past cleanly, he'll shove his way through. Usually at the detriment of the driver(s) being passed. At Bathurst in the Dunlop Series, he got a Drive through for an un-safe re-entry to the track. Careless and dangerous. Complete effing idiot!! FPR could have done a whole lot better than rely on "Daddy's Money".
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“I’ve always rated Chaz,” Morris told Speedcafe.com.
Umm that's cause he is twice the driver you will ever be already. ;D
"It is expected that Morris will also assist FPR to acquire sponsorship and advise the team on race strategy throughout the season."
Yeah, don't do what I dosed you will do fine lol
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I knew it was too good to be true when he sold his REC last year.
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and the other thing that is really bugging me is the TV rights now for 2015 and beyond. Deal was done for channel 10 and now it has onsold to payTV.
Channel 10 are only going to show 6 of the races for the year live and free to air. If you want to see the rest of the races live and not delayed till some stupid time, you now have to pay for your tv viewing.
Not happy with this at all
and yeah, PM is a tool
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and the other thing that is really bugging me is the TV rights now for 2015 and beyond. Deal was done for channel 10 and now it has onsold to payTV.
Channel 10 are only going to show 6 of the races for the year live and free to air. If you want to see the rest of the races live and not delayed till some stupid time, you now have to pay for your tv viewing.
Not happy with this at all
and yeah, PM is a tool
I wouldn't be surprised if "delayed" is only by 30mins to an hour. I highly doubt it will be a case of showing it at 9 or 10pm.
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I wouldn't be surprised if "delayed" is only by 30mins to an hour. I highly doubt it will be a case of showing it at 9 or 10pm.
You would like to think that, but I have so bad feeling. I reckon they will lose a big fan base, as most of their fans can't afford pay tv.
I can afford it, but won't be getting just to watch the v8s. So we will see how much my interest goes, considering there is not many rounds I have missed for over 10 years
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You would like to think that, but I have so bad feeling. I reckon they will lose a big fan base, as most of their fans can't afford pay tv.
I can afford it, but won't be getting just to watch the v8s. So we will see how much my interest goes, considering there is not many rounds I have missed for over 10 years
It would be a big step backwards in television if they do. 3 channels - One, Ten, Eleven to choose from. Not like the "old days" any more so no reason why they can't delay it by an hour........................except for $$$$$'s. I have Foxtel, so I'm not fussed. I might even be able to expand my friendship base because of it.
Bring on Clipsal for me this week. Better than TV. Never missed one and same seat for 7 years.
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Yeah that is true I guess, forgot about all those other channels that 10 own. Have fun this weekend.
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Yeah that is true I guess, forgot about all those other channels that 10 own. Have fun this weekend.
It sounds like the AFL where fans are being left behind for big corporate $$$... like most grandfinal tickets not even being sold to the public
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and the other thing that is really bugging me is the TV rights now for 2015 and beyond. Deal was done for channel 10 and now it has onsold to payTV.
Channel 10 are only going to show 6 of the races for the year live and free to air. If you want to see the rest of the races live and not delayed till some stupid time, you now have to pay for your tv viewing.
Not happy with this at all
and yeah, PM is a tool
The deal from the onset was always a joint between 10, foxtel and fox sports - 10 havent "onsold" to paytv. Full details for 2015 coverage havent yet been announced officially, however the 6 live races is the current rumour.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/02/17/v8s-set-confirm-2015-free-air-details/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/02/17/v8s-set-confirm-2015-free-air-details/)
I dont have fox and I will be extremely disappointed if this is the case, but the $$$ for selling the TV rights mean more than whos watching it. I wont be paying to watch TV anytime soon, no need I got a couple of mates who have it so just gives me an excuse to drink some beers with them ;D
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Go the Volvo!
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/mclaughlin-fourth-fastest-in-new-volvo (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/mclaughlin-fourth-fastest-in-new-volvo)
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I was at the Sydney test day as a guest of Volvo (i work in a Volvo dealership) and the cars sound so much different to any of the others and really quiet as well, talking to the Volvo Australia staff they are very passionate about having a car in the V8 supercars, believe it or not there are some massive revheads that work for Volvo, not a cardigan insight :cup:
Stu.
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I was at the Sydney test day as a guest of Volvo (i work in a Volvo dealership) and the cars sound so much different to any of the others and really quiet as well, talking to the Volvo Australia staff they are very passionate about having a car in the V8 supercars, believe it or not there are some massive revheads that work for Volvo, not a cardigan insight :cup:
Stu.
Mate of mine also works in a Volvo dealership and is a massive rev head. Recently went to Tas for some junket.
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I am the parts manager at our dealership and missied out on the Tassie trip by 25 points :'( but one of our salesmen came first in our region and did the trip but couldnt get excited about going to Tassie, having dinner at Moorilla estate (great wine and even better beer) quad biking etc didnt seem to appeal to him, must be a salesman thing :P
Which dealership is your mate fromMDS69 i may know him.
Stu.
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BJR one two after qualifying. lee holdsworth third, rick Kelly 5th and Scotty McLachlan (freakin auto spell) in the Volvo 8th.
Not a bad effort first up. One of each of the foreigners in the top 10. Good to see holdsworth have a good run after his annus horribilus last year.
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Just watched qualifying for race two tomorrow. Five different manufacturers in the top six cars. Young Scott McLachlan has put the Volvo into P2. Great result for its maiden year. Could be a very interesting year for V8 supercars this year.
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Great effort for a young fella and a good result for Volvo in the first race of the year. Will be a very interesting year with so many manufacturers in the top 10. Who would have thought.
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Great effort for a young fella and a good result for Volvo in the first race of the year. Will be a very interesting year with so many manufacturers in the top 10. Who would have thought.
x2, what an eye opener that was, didnt think that would happen
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Just watched qualifying for race two tomorrow. Five different manufacturers in the top six cars. Young Scott McLachlan has put the Volvo into P2. Great result for its maiden year. Could be a very interesting year for V8 supercars this year.
:cup: great effort I reckon
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x2, what an eye opener that was, didnt think that would happen
Betcha Betty is scratching her head.........Volvo P2 in the 1st outing !!
But Dahlgren will struggle....don't care how talented you are overseas, it's hard to get up to speed in the supercars..
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Betcha Betty is scratching her head.........Volvo P2 in the 1st outing !!
But Dahlgren will struggle....don't care how talented you are overseas, it's hard to get up to speed in the supercars..
Yeah but I think he and Gary are both aware of this.
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I was at the Sydney test day as a guest of Volvo (i work in a Volvo dealership) and the cars sound so much different to any of the others and really quiet as well, talking to the Volvo Australia staff they are very passionate about having a car in the V8 supercars, believe it or not there are some massive revheads that work for Volvo, not a cardigan insight :cup:
Stu.
I think it will do the Volvo brand a lot of good. People are becoming bored with the Merc, Bimmer and VAG stuff.
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Great effort for a young fella and a good result for Volvo in the first race of the year. Will be a very interesting year with so many manufacturers in the top 10. Who would have thought.
Considering he has not seen/raced or been on the circuit, I think he has heaps of potential for the future and Garry Rogers is a master of picking talent. :cup:
Garry Rogers also bats way above his team potential financially in competing, I like him very much and he has an eye for talent! :cheers:
Foo
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Garry Rogers is a master of picking talent.
You mean the same bloke who sacked the most dominant touring car driver Australia has had? 8)
As for the Volvo. Fingers crossed Valvoline commit to a full season a major sponsor, cause that S60 is by far the best looking car on the grid.
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http://youtu.be/vQ3jXFJMVrc
Hope the link works but that Volvo sounds sweet.
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And who would that be? :-\
Foo
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Whingecup did a stint with grm.
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That he did. 02 and 03. Then to Perkins, then Tasman and onto triple 8
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the new app is crap, hope they fix it asap..
Peter,
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volvo sounds better than the mercs :cup:
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That he did. 02 and 03. Then to Perkins, then Tasman and onto triple 8
He didn't do much until he got to Triple 8.
I wonder what that says.....
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As for the Volvo. Fingers crossed Valvoline commit to a full season a major sponsor, cause that S60 is by far the best looking car on the grid.
I bet they have a bonnet sponsor by round two.
Love watching Scott drive. His interview after he got the front row spot was so well done. Humble and talented........
Go lowndes..........then go Scotty, you can come second all year :-)
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I bet they have a bonnet sponsor by round two.
If all goes well for the Volvo's this arvo, I reckon we might see something on the bonnet when he lines up 2nd on the grid for Sunday's race.
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He didn't do much until he got to Triple 8.
I wonder what that says.....
Your dead right. I have always said the same. Could put almost any driver in the triple 8 car and you would have a 5 time champ ;D
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Your dead right. I have always said the same. Could put almost any driver in the triple 8 car and you would have a 5 time champ ;D
If only it was that easy ???
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Can't wait for this, 15 mins to go :)
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IMO that Volvo is without a doubt the best looking car on the grid.
Could put almost any driver in the triple 8 car and you would have a 5 time champ ;D
Just ask Lowndes...
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IMO that Volvo is without a doubt the best looking car on the grid.
I'll say :cup:
James
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I had a 1976 264 GXL nearly the same colour, so come on Volvo. Love Lowndes' but be nice to see one of the new mob get a win or two.
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the new app is crap, hope they fix it asap..
Peter,
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Oh I agree 1000000000%
It is just crap.
I have been trying to contact V8SC about it all weekend. But no response.
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Now that I have had more of a play with it I like it..
Ok they need to finish it and get the live timing etc working.. And I hope they will fix the log in issue, I hate having to log into apps, especially if I close it to look at tapatalk or facebook during the race, then go back to their app and have to log in again..
I like the front page with all the articles to read, thats better than last years.
Peter,
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How good was that finish!!!!
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Scott boy what a race! Great drive to hold off whincup for 2nd :cup:
Go Volvo :cheers:
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one of the best finishes i've seen for a looooong while
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Finally a team blue that can mix it with 888! 8)
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LOL Nice slip up Scotty 'Fark Yeah' :cup: :cup: :cup:
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Who da flick is professional racing Australia? As windup was introduced! Lowndes from RBA.
Not over that one yet!
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LOL Nice slip up Scotty 'Fark Yeah' :cup: :cup: :cup:
Cracker!
Brilliant drive by Scotty Mac, great last corner and loved the interview!
"I plucked first, gave it some jandel and f@#k yeah!"
Good to see Volvo embracing GRM's wacky side with the ABBA grid impersonation.
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Well done to the young fella. Don't think Whincup was amused.... Sucked in I reckon.
Go Lowndesy!!!!
Sent from the machine that goes..... Bing!
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Bugger, was watching Happy Feet with my son :(
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Wow!!!! Go the swedish valiant!!!!
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A good race and am most impressed with the first run. 8)
Foo
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Don't think Whincup was amused.
You'd swear he sucking on a lemon during that interview.
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Cracker!
Brilliant drive by Scotty Mac, great last corner and loved the interview!
"I plucked first, gave it some jandel and f@#k yeah!"
Good to see Volvo embracing GRM's wacky side with the ABBA grid impersonation.
I reckon its great, makes it real interesting. I must admit as much as a hardcore Holden man I am I was pretty rapt for Volvo and was cheering on Scotty in the last few laps :cheers:
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How good was that, hope he sticks it up them tomorrow ;D and what did he say "f"ck them go for it boy" ahahahahaha Jamie was not impressed hey.
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For those that missed it.
2014 V8 Supercars - Adelaide - Race 2 - Scott McLaughlin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2moBJsczcY0#ws)
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"I plucked first, gave it some jandel and f@#k yeah!"
Bet thats not the last time we hear that line, maybe Volvo should pick it up
Life long Holden tragic but have always been a Gary Rogers fan and what he acheives with young drivers, hats off to them, no pun intended
macca
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Also a long time, one eyed HOLDEN fan. But really just a Motorsport NUT. I was at the track today. And it was AMAZING. The atmosphere in the last few laps and after the race was something I have not seen in years.
Well done to GRM and young Scott. The sport needs more passion like his. Chaz has very similar attitude. "I just want to drive fast"
On a different note though. The announcement today re the new tv / media deal for the v8s in 2015. Is a dark day for our sport.
Unless you are willing to line the pockets of the owners of foxtel you will see very little v8 action next year.
Pretty upset by this decision by the v8sc owners and management. Choosing short term $$$ over all the long term supporters and fans.
Oh well guess if I give up Motorsport (I don't know if I can). I would have more time and $$$ for my other love. Camping.
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Wow! Race two. That was one of the best race finishes i have seen for a long time. I've never seen the whole crowd up on their feet and cheering like that before. Good to see Lowndes have a win as i still rate him highly and would like to see him beat his team mate Wincup.
Jamie did'nt seem too pleased with the result when being interviewed after the race. Today's race three could be very interesting as all the brands appear to be more competitive this year.
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BJR car on its lid again. Big hit for JB
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That was nasty! :o
Foo
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That was nasty! :o
Foo
A fair but of air time :o :o
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Wasnt it his boss that spent so much time upside down at Clipsal that his sponsors (OzEmail I think) put their logo on the bottom of his car and "this way up" on the rear bumper
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Yep! :cup:
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Winning one race out of three does not make you the winners of the weekend. Lowndes is in front in the championship, so he was the winner out of the weekend. Typical first weekend of the year the driving standards were terrible. But happy to see Volvo on the pace from the start.
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Talk about rule interpretation when dishing out drive thru's! From one of the officials "because Kelly any Van Gisbergen gapped Whincup cup at the restart we assumed they accelerated too early" or words to that affect. So penalties are now based on assumptions?
As for Whincup's drive thru, talk about nit picking on technicalities...
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As for Whincup's drive thru, talk about nit picking on technicalities...
Red Bull would have been pointing their finger and jumping up and down if it was somebody else........
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Yep Red Bull stuffed up. Can't knock any of them for arguing the point but they stuffed up, as did Kelly and Van Gisbergen
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Yeah I think all penalties were fine..nik picking or not, at least the std has now being set, hope bargs can keep it fair through the rest of the season
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Winning one race out of three does not make you the winners of the weekend. Lowndes is in front in the championship, so he was the winner out of the weekend. Typical first weekend of the year the driving standards were terrible. But happy to see Volvo on the pace from the start.
James
Agree 100%
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Geez Kelly and Van Cheeseburger done for speeding in a car race what next ;D
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Yep Red Bull stuffed up. Can't knock any of them for arguing the point but they stuffed up, as did Kelly and Van Gisbergen
That was an interesting one Al. I have watched a replay of that re start several times and after hearing the official's comments of it being a visual observation of the gap back to the red bull car to assume the speed difference it brings up another possible scenario.
If the red bull car was holding back below the 60km/h speed limit and holding the field behind him then this would account for the apparent gap when the front two cars accelerated and they were definately in the correct zone when they did. This could have been unintentional or deliberate to create a penalty. Food for thought..
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They did also say they were using radar and other indicators, not just a visual observation and making an assumption on that. Remember they have a lot of data at their disposal. the interview on the run was good but very brief and view impromptu. A bit more then visual observation was used.
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They did also say they were using radar and other indicators, not just a visual observation and making an assumption on that. Remember they have a lot of data at their disposal. the interview on the run was good but very brief and view impromptu. A bit more then visual observation was used.
That is a little unclear on the replay as when questioned the official said they do use radar but when asked further if they did use radar in this instance, he avoided answering this and went on to say that they had made a visual observation. He was referring to the gap between kellys car and wincups car. This could be caused by the first two cars exceeding the 60km/h limit or by the third car holding below the 60km/h limit. Maybe we will never know but it certainly is a bit nit picky in the big scheme of things, as was the penalty on wincup for the observer touching his car in the pits as it obviously cost him the race win, for something so trivial. I hope the rest of the season is not going to be like the NRL was last year with officials holding back the flow of the game with whistle blowing and penalties every ten minutes.
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http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/03/teams-race-clock-ahead-albert-park/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/03/teams-race-clock-ahead-albert-park/)
Check out the pics of brights car at the bottom of page.
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Well just got home from Adelaide.................and WOW!!
Simply:
The Volvo's - sound amazingly awesome.
McLaughlin - in the 20 odd years I've been to motorsport events, I've never heard so many people groan collectively (Turn 9 when Wankcup got passed him) and erupt collectively when Wankcup made a mistake and McLaughlin got passed. No one in our stand on Turn 7 was left seated after the last turn. It was brilliant stuff.
GRM/Polestar - have just jumped 5 years ahead in popularity after their efforts.
Wankcup - it takes a Man to accept when he made a mistake and be gracious he got beaten by a better driver. He just can't do it.
Wankcup again - proved he can't cope when being successfully challenged from in front. Cracked on the last turn in Race 2. Cracked coming out of Turn 9 with Caruso in the 250km race. Result = 25 point penalty. Suck sh|t. Judging from the cheering when things didn't go his way this weekend, it seems he's become unpopular at a rapid rate.
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Yep everyone loves to see a reigning champion fall
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Yep everyone loves to see a reigning champion fall
I don't think it's that so much as people don't like sore losers. He may IMO be one of if not the best driver in the field, but it still doesn't change the fact that I just don't like him
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Yep everyone loves to see a reigning champion fall
I don't mind seeing anyone fall, but I am disgusted when the penalties are based on vision from TV cameras that only seem to look at the leading cars.
When every pit box has the video scrutiny from three cameras, and teams of washed out hacks and untrained monkeys like Channel 7 have watching every little detail, it will be fair. Until then, scrap the crap.
Let's face it, there were probably dozens of cases where infringements were made that never got acted on
because the decision makers are sitting in their air conditioned rooms sucking on champagne and watching video monitors, and waiting for the on-air idiots who obviously don't know many of the rules go Oooh, lookit that, a guy with a stick pointed to some race tape.........now that's dangerous, he doesn't have a license to point at anything.
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I don't think it's that so much as people don't like sore losers. He may IMO be one of if not the best driver in the field, but it still doesn't change the fact that I just don't like him
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Agree entirely. He's a great Driver and deserves all his Championships, but he's a miserable little toad if he doesn't go his way.
As for the TV coverage next year...................a BIG backwards step. 1 hour of highlights coverage is ridiculous.
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Only six out of 16 races on free to air next year. Luckily my wife loves the racing as much as me, so should not be a big argument to get foxtel....maybe
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Only six out of 16 races on free to air next year. Luckily my wife loves the racing as much as me, so should not be a big argument to get foxtel....maybe
Is that live coverage, or only 6 coverages at any time..
If some are delayed, then that might not be too bad...
If it's only 6 ....full stop. then maybe nows the time to whinge about it ??
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Is that live coverage, or only 6 coverages at any time..
If some are delayed, then that might not be too bad...
If it's only 6 ....full stop. then maybe nows the time to whinge about it ??
The following........
Clipsal
Sandown
Bathurst
Gold Coast
Sydney
Townsville
.....will be telecast Live on Free-to-air. The rest of the seasons events will feature a 1 hour highlights package.
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Of course it is. The whole point is to sell Foxtel, why would the play any more than highlights free. Looks like my weekends will be free for my other hobby more often. See ya round the campfire.
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Personally I lost interest, other than Bathurst, when the rights went to 7. You never knew when they'd show it, before or after the football etc. At least when it was on 10 you could guarantee live and on time. If Foxtel are going to show it live and have full coverage then I am ok with that.
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I have been watching v8 racing for years, but they have lost me if I have to get Foxtel, that wont happen, if it is not free to air they don't want me as a viewer. >:(
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I was a mad passionate V8 supporter all my life and leading up to the COTF project I was losing interest fast, sure Id still want to know the results but I wasn't watching all the races like I used to, only the big ones. But now I have my interest back so well done to them for that. I am loving the new manufacturers.
I am a life long Ford devotee though and that will never change but to see young McLaughlin get Whincup had me off the lounge fist pumping!
I think there is a lot of tall poppy issues, to hear the crowd boo Whincup was not nice to watch but it was the same with Skaifey and Ambrose......Scumacher, Vettel, I think its just in our nature to want to start hating the Champions if they keep winning.
It will be good for the sport if RedBull stop dominating and the other guys get up there more often. It will be even better to have fairy tales like the Volvo beating them in a decent battle like what we saw ;)
Im like most with the penalties and think they were soft, but they are what they are, you see it all the time. As long as humans are making decisions there will be decisions made that some of us don't agree with.
When or if they do in fact take those races off to pay TV that will loose a life long fan in me from the sport. I won't get pay tv period. Yep Ill still watch the big races but I think you will find it is going to do more damage than good to the fan base. They will work it out and bring it back to free to air but the big question is how many seasons do they take to figure out they are loosing fans.
I am a fan of all motorsports, some may say a student of the sport so there is plenty of free to air motorsports to keep me entertained as long as Aussies are in them I have a real interest.
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Look what Volvo have stuck on the roof of Scotty Mac's car.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/10009864_744812132204497_113505904_n.jpg)
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Look what Volvo have stuck on the roof of Scotty Mac's car.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/10009864_744812132204497_113505904_n.jpg)
Ha Ha.. That is very clever and funny as it is based on his comments after his second place at the Clipsal 500
Volvo has got off to a good start but it will be interesting if they stay consistant and improve on it as the season unfolds.
Nissan also seems to have improved with their times and running in the top ten standings so we could be in for an exciting year.
Bathurst will be the real deal maker this year though. Could a Merc win it??
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Just give it some jandle
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Look what Volvo have stuck on the roof of Scotty Mac's car.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/10009864_744812132204497_113505904_n.jpg)
Well, looks like young Scotty Mac gave it "some jandel" and gave Volvo it's maiden V8 win.
Well done Fella :cup:
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/16/mclaughlin-hands-volvo-maiden-v8-supercars-win/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/16/mclaughlin-hands-volvo-maiden-v8-supercars-win/)
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Well, looks like young Scotty Mac gave it "some jandel" and gave Volvo it's maiden V8 win.
Well done Fella :cup:
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/16/mclaughlin-hands-volvo-maiden-v8-supercars-win/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/16/mclaughlin-hands-volvo-maiden-v8-supercars-win/)
You bet me to it :cup: awesome to see well done Team Volvo :cheers:
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OK, time to come out of the closet!
I've always been a Volvo fan. One of my first cars was a 360GLT. A RWD hatch that was surprisingly fun to drive. Loved the 850R as a teenager and now drive a V60 T6.
Great to see Volvo doing so well in Australian Motorsport.
Now, where did I put my hat? :)
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OK, time to come out of the closet!
I've always been a Volvo fan. One of my first cars was a 360GLT. A RWD hatch that was surprisingly fun to drive. Loved the 850R as a teenager and now drive a V60 T6.
Great to see Volvo doing so well in Australian Motorsport.
Now, where did I put my hat? :)
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Have you had the Polestar software upgrade done to your V60?
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You bet me to it :cup: awesome to see well done Team Volvo :cheers:
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Not yet. TBH I'm pretty happy with how the car performs as is. Can't really justify the extra $$$$. Especially when I factor in the cost of speeding fines. :)
What do you think? Is it worth the money?
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It is a lot of money but it does make a big difference to the car, obviously more power and it sharpens up the transmission performance as well, i run the parts department for a Volvo dealership (i promise i am not trying to "upsell" you! :angel:) but i have seen the before and after on a car when we did the software upgrade and the difference is very noticeable, the T6 is a cracking engine, we have never had any issues with them here.
Stu.
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I'm looking forward to having a listen to them next weekend :)
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Always good to see 2 red bull cars crash into each other lol
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Always good to see 2 red bull cars crash into each other lol
Yep! That will have Roland Dane looking like he's been sucking on lemons again.. ;D
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Yep! That will have Roland Dane looking like he's been sucking on lemons again.. ;D
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So Lowndes goes from 25th to 5th so what can you guys say now.
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I say "Well done Graig Lowndes" I am actually a Lowndes supporter and he always goes well when he starts from the back of the field.
It's just Roland Dane that annoys me when something does't go his way he is always quick to blame someone else and i still believe he has favoured Whincup over Lowndes in the past.
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I say "Well done Graig Lowndes" I am actually a Lowndes supporter and he always goes well when he starts from the back of the field.
It's just Roland Dane that annoys me when something does't go his way he is always quick to blame someone else and i still believe he has favoured Whincup over Lowndes in the past.
It seems if there is going to be grief in that team its Lowndesy that cops it, I think he should jump ship and hop in the other Volvo hahahahahahah
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I say "Well done Graig Lowndes"
Forget the first race, focus on the second race, that was a drive that only a champion could pull off. Regardless of make of manufacturer or team/colour loyalties one has to admire Craig Lowndes and his ability.
cheers duggie
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Craig Lowndes is the man. Jamie Whincup is a dog. Can't stand the sight of the snivelling little cretin. Say what you will, but in Race 1 he took out his team mate & thought nothing of it. A racing incident, the bloke has no spine nor scrupples. Win at any cost,no matter what. He just not gel with me at all.
Cheers, Mike.
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Craig Lowndes is the man. Jamie Whincup is a dog. Can't stand the sight of the snivelling little cretin. Say what you will, but in Race 1 he took out his team mate & thought nothing of it. A racing incident, the bloke has no spine nor scrupples. Win at any cost,no matter what. He just not gel with me at all.
Cheers, Mike.
he dosnt gel with a lot of people, being at the gp was a eye opener
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Craig Lowndes is the man. Jamie Whincup is a dog. Can't stand the sight of the snivelling little cretin. Say what you will, but in Race 1 he took out his team mate & thought nothing of it. A racing incident, the bloke has no spine nor scrupples. Win at any cost,no matter what. He just not gel with me at all.
Cheers, Mike.
I too am a big Lowndes fan, but don't care for Whincup much at all. I'd have to disagree with your thoughts on race one though and would say it was more a 50/50 race incident. Yes Whincup could have easily dropped back, but in the same breath Lowndes could have quite easily made room as Whincup had definately got his nose up there.
Brilliant drive by Lowndes in the 2nd race though
My 2c
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Yep I agree with Marcus, Whincup was fairly well up on him. Don't get me wrong I am a big Lownes fan and a bigger Holden fan, but I would love a dollar for every time Craig has pushed his headlight into a competitors door to help him off the track
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I agree with Marcus too, whincup was up there and it's one of those things, lowndes could of giving him room.
And I don't care for either of them. Always disliked whincup,from his first drive, and lowndes lost me when he chased the money and jumped to ford. Cya pal!
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I agree with Marcus too, whincup was up there and it's one of those things, lowndes could of giving him room.
And I don't care for either of them. Always disliked whincup,from his first drive, and lowndes lost me when he chased the money and jumped to ford. Cya pal!
There was a bit more in it than just money >:D
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No doubt, there always is. Regardless. He lost me then, I was a big lowndes fan.
He can drive, not taking that away from him.
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I thought is was a bit of a 'B pillar bash' type pass. ie drill the car in up pass the B pillar and use the outside car to help you turn. Had they not been teammates I reckon there would have been an 75% chance of a drive thru applied to car 1.
Looks like the tit for tat feud between FPR and 888 is still on. Looks like FPR alerted the officials to the race tape over Loundes's drivers window hole and 888 tried to claim FPR were running an illegal steering column mounting bracket...
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/29/red-bull-fpr-symmons-plains-tech-rows/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/29/red-bull-fpr-symmons-plains-tech-rows/)
Also I'm told by a friend to expect some fireworks mid season at a proposed aero parity review of all 5 makes. Allegedly Holden are claiming Volvo have an aero advantage, Erebus are claiming they have a disadvantage and Ford want answers on why the V8SC owned COTF test FG was 50kg down on aero at the back to back test with the Volvo at the start of the year. Apparently the Ford was used as the aero benchmark in 2013, as it remained unchanged. When the same FG was retested again this year, they (V8SC) could not replicate the 2013 aero figures.
Maybe a wind tunnel would be better than driving up and down an airstrip...
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I am far from a Wankcup fan. I don't like his lack of ability to control himself when making his way through the field under pressure. He's always had that trait from Karting to Cars. HOWEVER..........he was far enough up inside Lowndes and should have been given room.
Re: 888's complaint about FPR's steering column:-
I REALLY hope the Teams don't start relying on technical infringements during racing in order to gain a position. It would start heading down the path of F1 with regards to relying on technicalities rather than racing.
PS.............see my post in the "Drunk Thread" re: this post.
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So, FPR and Red Bull have been at it behind the scenes again
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/29/red-bull-fpr-symmons-plains-tech-rows/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/03/29/red-bull-fpr-symmons-plains-tech-rows/)
I am honestly sick of the sight of both these teams and the way their management throw their toys out of the cot at each other over trivial issues at many of the race meetings. I believe this is one of the reasons that the V8 race officials have now started "nit picking" over obvious minor issues at recent events. If this carries on much longer many of the supporters and spectators are going to walk away from V8 supercars and follow events that are won on the racetrack and not in the boardroom.
There are many other great teams and drivers in V8 supercars that without the distraction of both FPR and Red Bull would provide us with some magnificent and exciting racing. I'm sure Craig Lowndes would easily be offered a drive in Nissan or Volvo.
Go back ten years and beyond when this class was so exciting and the nit picking did'nt affect the results. It was simply awesome and we could'nt wait till Bathurst as the season wind up.
Just my 2c worth.
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Bring on 2015 when coverage is on Foxtel. This weekend has been very ordinary.
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Bring on 2015 when coverage is on Foxtel. This weekend has been very ordinary.
They will loose me as a fan next year, no way I am paying to watch something that should be on free to air tv. >:( >:( >:(
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...that should be on free to air tv. >:( >:( >:(
Why do you think that?
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Just because I do, :D It has always been free to air, as far as I know, well up here anyway.
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They will loose me as a fan next year, no way I am paying to watch something that should be on free to air tv. >:( >:( >:(
XXXXXX 2..........why should we have to pay to see V8's ???
They are paying sh## loads of money to broadcast it....so broadcast it....................if you paid too much for it, sell it to someone who will !!
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The V8s will be on channel Ten next year not channel Seven.
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Only a few races on 10. Rest will be on foxtel. Is a total crock. I have been an avid Motorsport fan for many many years. I think it's time to spend my time and money else were.
More time and dose for camping !!
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Yep, be furked if I'm paying for pay TV EVER. I love V8s, but not that much that I have to pay for it...
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The V8s will be on channel Ten next year not channel Seven.
The v8's are on Foxtel and 10. Channel 10 will only show 6 main events live, the rest will be Foxtel.
I guess I will only watch the 6, if I remember they are on. Think of all the sponsors that will lose cause they don't have mainstream advertising. I hope Foxtel and 10 have paid heap and heaps to have the rights, because the sponsors will drop off once they realise they don't get value for money.
This is how it works. People will start to lose interest, they will forget when it is on free to air, they then forget what rounds they want to go to, so no people at the tracks, the result will be 10 white cars driving around a track live on Foxtel, with mark skaife and Neil Compton the only ones watching at the track.
Only a few races on 10. Rest will be on foxtel. Is a total crock. I have been an avid Motorsport fan for many many years. I think it's time to spend my time and money else were.
More time and dose for camping !!
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Yep. That's what'll be doing. Camping.
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In regards to the TV deal, I bet you would have found plenty of people making the same comments regarding the AFL years ago when foxtel got their grubby mits into it years ago. Seems to have not affected the sport too much from what I've seen (but then again, my opinon dosent matter as I dont watch AFL anyway).
I think the coverage will improve for the casual viewer, and the hard core fan who cant afford or doesent want to pay for TV will miss out.
I cant afford pay TV - and even if I could I refuse to pay for it anyway as they have commercial adverts on. If Im paying for it I want no commercial ads - period, double dipping bastards >:(
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I gave up watching the week end taxi races, only one race a year that interests me now
Bathurst and even thats been a bit ho hum at times compared to the earlier years ..
Take the back room adjustable tech aids away, basic in car / external controls for the steerer and pit crew, keep the power, how it hits the track is how you race it ... no limeters, buttons for this and computer controlled thats... Then lets see who has the talent to get it to the chequered flag ..
Then and only then it might be worth watching again..
But that aint ever going to happen ..
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I gave up watching the week end taxi races.........
They're not even remotely related to taxis any more.
The category has become irrelevant........ :'(
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I get more enjoyment and satisfaction watching the old bangers (Touring Car Masters) Where the drivers and the cars are real and there is'nt all the technical BS. Just like Bathurst of old.
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Gotta turn up the sound for this one ...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLPTjE1GZk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLPTjE1GZk)
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Hey Edz, that was awesome, thought i was seeing things, an Austin A30, a Hillman Imp, a PB Vauxhall etc, etc, and could that GT Falcon go. That was grass roots motor racing and if only we could have that back again.
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Lots more in the side videoettes too... Lakeside bif n barge ...
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Geez some of you lot are tough. I completely understand the rawness of the past vehicles, but you got to move with the times.
Last years Bathurst, an amazing finish after just over 6 hours of racing. 1/2 to 1 car length splits first and second. With 3rd and 4th about 6 car lengths behind and 3/4 of the field still on the lead lap. Effin great finish. Especially being there.
This year at Clipsal a 19 year old odd Bloke in his 2nd full time season of V8 Supercar racing, a brand new manufacturer beats and simply out pressure's a 5-time Series Champion in more than well established Team. McLaughlin single handily put Volvo ahead 5 years in fan base and notoriety in that single weekend with his Practice, Qualifying and Race speed. 180,000 people were up standing on Saturday because of him. I've never seen or been a part of that in the sport before.
There's been numerous, fantastic races over the past 20 years whether it be at the front, middle or back of the pack. Some fantastic drives all round.
Not sure how you can imply technology as factor for bringing the sport into the boring, you very much have to drive the car. There's no traction control, no ABS, no launch control, sure have brake bias but you still have to adjust to suit your driving and that's only a little factor. They are all the way a Driver's car. Sequential shift - yup. But road cars have it. Rev - limiter - yup, but that keeps the cost down. Look at the number of Drivers in the series that bog it down at the start. Ingall did it last weekend and he's the most experienced out there!
The Bathurst 12 hour is an even better example of Motorsport moving with the times. 12 hours of racing and the first 4 finish within 4 seconds odd of each other. That was a fantastic finish.
The Touring Car Masters aren't really the original engines or vehicles like they were from era of the individual vehicle. Shape - yes. Sound - most definitely (although I'm really old enough to know) They are a fully race engineered ie cams, springs etc bigger brakes, rev limited to a certain number depending on the vehicle.
For the price to buy a car to run in the Touring Car Masters, you could get your hands on a V8 Supercar and run in the Kuhmo V8 Series with change left over. Why wouldn't you? You'd more than likely have a car with more history than the Touring Car Master would.
And for those that compare the coverage and series to NASCAR - don't bother. Speaking to several Crew members of Teams last year at Bathurst and friends that been to NASCAR races, they have said NASCAR and even the round last year at the Circuit of America's has nothing on the V8's due to the accessibility for fans and On-Track Action - unless you know people or have the $$$'s. Walk into most tracks if not all the day before the race weekend starts of V8's and you'll be right at the front of the Garages and be able to see the drivers, teams and cars get themselves sorted. They're always up for a chat. On a Race weekend, pay $10 - $30 and grab a Pit Pass to walk at the back of the Garages and see all the people you know from the sport. For free you can walk through the Support Paddock. Good luck with doing that with ease at NASCAR. And at F1 - forget it unless you **** **** **** ***.
Again....bring on Foxtel next year. I'll even get to see the TCM's races, Aussie Cars, GT Production, Dunlop Series etc. Apart from being there, it will certainly be the next best thing.
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I still enjoy watching them.....but I will NOT pay for Foxtel just so I can watch them....
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Theres proof that v8super cars are going backwards, Bathurst to be run in a clockwise direction from 2015, pun intended, lol
macca
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Theres proof that v8super cars are going backwards, Bathurst to be run in a clockwise direction from 2015, pun intended, lol
macca
That would make it very interesting :cheers:
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The plan is for a sprint event, Easter weekend 2015 to be run in reverse
See story
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/01/v8-supercars-set-for-radical-bathurst-sprint-meeting/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/01/v8-supercars-set-for-radical-bathurst-sprint-meeting/)
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The plan is for a sprint event, Easter weekend 2015 to be run in reverse
See story
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/01/v8-supercars-set-for-radical-bathurst-sprint-meeting/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/01/v8-supercars-set-for-radical-bathurst-sprint-meeting/)
April fools joke??? :cup:
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April fools joke??? :cup:
Spoil sport >:D. ;D
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Prado120s on the money, could you imagine them getting to the top of the mountain at 300 clicks, that would be interesting
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Prado120s on the money, could you imagine them getting to the top of the mountain at 300 clicks, that would be interesting
Hill climb is run that direction at Bathurst, I reckon it would be a great idea, shame it is bull****.
GO VOLVO :cup:
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Here's a good one on the V8SC website:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/holden-racing-team-averts-disaster-after-transporter-misses-ship (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/holden-racing-team-averts-disaster-after-transporter-misses-ship)
and:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/legends-behind-the-wheel-for-bathurst (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/legends-behind-the-wheel-for-bathurst)
I hope the links work.
Stu.
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Spoil sport >:D. ;D
Sorry Oldmate, iv'e had that "ooh that seems cool" thought a few times today when reading stuff online and then a minute later it dawned on my slow brain it was flippin April fools day ;D
Stu.
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Here's a good one on the V8SC website:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/holden-racing-team-averts-disaster-after-transporter-misses-ship (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/holden-racing-team-averts-disaster-after-transporter-misses-ship)
and:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/legends-behind-the-wheel-for-bathurst (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/legends-behind-the-wheel-for-bathurst)
I hope the links work.
Stu.
hahahah that las one is easily bull. DJ cant even drive his business let alone a v8 lol
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Where was the reminder there was racing today :(
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You missed this yesterday, good one Betty!
http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/all-the-action-from-saturday-v8-qualifying-and-racing-at-the-winton-400/story-fnec58e3-1226875350705 (http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/all-the-action-from-saturday-v8-qualifying-and-racing-at-the-winton-400/story-fnec58e3-1226875350705)
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Yeah good to see them get up.
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Stoked for him.
Was listening to the story on Friday arvo about the break in and Lee running through the house naked with a bball bat.......hilarious...........put a fire inside him though......and the benz's got new race motors a couple of weeks ago probably doesn't hurt either.
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888 have another shocker weekend.
That's 2 rounds in a row. Almost unheard of in the last 6 years!
Whincup sitting 6th in the championship and Frosty leading by over 100 points, after looking slow and nowhere after Clipsal.
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888 have another shocker weekend.
That's 2 rounds in a row. Almost unheard of in the last 6 years!
Whincup sitting 6th in the championship and Frosty leading by over 100 points, after looking slow and nowhere after Clipsal.
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:cup: hey and who said this year would be crap ;D ;D
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This year has been fantastic so far. Even Erebus are starting to shine. Just need some more consistency.
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This year has been fantastic so far. Even Erebus are starting to shine. Just need some more consistency.
Agreed great to see such a variety at the front.
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Great punch from Marcus!
Pity our guys aren't allowed to display that level of emotion and must always be mindful of protecting the brand.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/27/ambrose-punch-richmond/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/27/ambrose-punch-richmond/)
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Great punch from Marcus!
Pity our guys aren't allowed to display that level of emotion and must always be mindful of protecting the brand.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/27/ambrose-punch-richmond/ (http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/04/27/ambrose-punch-richmond/)
Hasn't stopped Paul "I'm A Fat B@stard" Morris showing it on track.
My bet is the obvious, Mears will send Ambrose into the wall next race and then Ambrose will do the same.
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I love that NASCAR didn't even care about
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Hasn't stopped Paul "I'm A Fat B@stard" Morris showing it on track.
Yet funnily enough, Morris is the one who has been on the wrong end of a fist on TV.
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Yet funnily enough, Morris is the one who has been on the wrong end of a fist on TV.
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Pmsl. That was funny
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Yet funnily enough, Morris is the one who has been on the wrong end of a fist on TV.
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Every Morris Hater owes Longhurst a beer for that one.
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Every Morris Hater owes Longhurst a beer for that one.
He should of waited till his helmet was off though
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He should of waited till his helmet was off though
I just watched it again - for old times sake - Longhurst has his belts off and the door open before his car has stopped. I'm thinking in his eyes, Morris wasn't wearing one.............and watched it again.
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I just watched it again - for old times sake - Longhurst has his belts off and the door open before his car has stopped. I'm thinking in his eyes, Morris wasn't wearing one.............and watched it again.
Lol. ABSOLUTLY.
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Volvo notch up a win
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/volvo-claims-first-win-in-v8s-since-1986/tabid/91/newsid/131646/default.aspx?cid=BP_RSS_SPORT_6_VolvoclaimsfirstwininV8ssince1986_170514&_ga=1.9854325.1372715314.1352801683 (http://www.sportsfan.com.au/volvo-claims-first-win-in-v8s-since-1986/tabid/91/newsid/131646/default.aspx?cid=BP_RSS_SPORT_6_VolvoclaimsfirstwininV8ssince1986_170514&_ga=1.9854325.1372715314.1352801683)
GG
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Volvo notch up a win
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/volvo-claims-first-win-in-v8s-since-1986/tabid/91/newsid/131646/default.aspx?cid=BP_RSS_SPORT_6_VolvoclaimsfirstwininV8ssince1986_170514&_ga=1.9854325.1372715314.1352801683 (http://www.sportsfan.com.au/volvo-claims-first-win-in-v8s-since-1986/tabid/91/newsid/131646/default.aspx?cid=BP_RSS_SPORT_6_VolvoclaimsfirstwininV8ssince1986_170514&_ga=1.9854325.1372715314.1352801683)
GG
Yes it was great to see!! i have been following GRM since I was a kid so I was pretty pumped for Scott & the team
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Yes it was great to see!! i have been following GRM since I was a kid so I was pretty pumped for Scott & the team
I had a chance earlier this month to visit the GRM workshop (i am in the Volvo dealer network) as part of a parts and service managers meeting, we got to have dinner the night before with Scotty Mac, Rob Dahlgren and Gary Rogers and you will not meet a nicer bunch of people (i am aware that Volvo is giving them lots of money and they should be nice) but they were very generous with their time and answered any questions we had, then the next day on the workshop visit/tour they were very open about everything they do when building the cars and showed us all the ins & outs & made it very clear they had no secrets or anything to hide & we could take as many photos as we liked, i dare say you probably wouldnt be allowed to do that at somewhere like 888 or FPR!?
Stu.
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If any of you motorsports nuts are about, Le Mans 24 hours is on a live feed.
http://en.lemanslive.com (http://en.lemanslive.com)
In the graveyard shift at the moment, about 4AM or so, so not a great deal to see.
Oh yeah, Toyota are leading.
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4 and a half hours to go, Webbers Porsche still sitting second, one lap down on the leading Audi.
Toyota Fail.
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Thanks for the link. Always wanted to watch Le mans live but didn't know how (other than to go there that is)
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Webbers Porsche now leads, it's having a trouble free run, but not as quick as the number 2 Audi in second, now on the same lap, which has had a few issues.
Interesting.
3 hours to go.
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Awesome to watch and have learnt so much. The car in p1 was an audi that had a turbo failure with 3 hours to go. Turbo replaced in 17 minutes so webber is now in P1. Woohoo! My mechanic is going to hate me watching this cos when my turbo goes and needs to be replaced on the TD LC 100 I know it can be done in 15 min. He charges $100 per hour. Sooooo..... 25 bucks plus parts should cover it.......
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Awesome to watch and have learnt so much. The car in p1 was an audi that had a turbo failure with 3 hours to go. Turbo replaced in 17 minutes so webber is now in P1. Woohoo! My mechanic is going to hate me watching this cos when my turbo goes and needs to be replaced on the TD LC 100 I know it can be done in 15 min. He charges $100 per hour. Sooooo..... 25 bucks plus parts should cover it.......
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only 17 minutes... BUT!
it takes 15 mechanic's and the turbo costs $250,000.00
probably still cheaper and quicker than allot of dealers...
#20 Porsche still in the lead and Weber behind the wheel for the run home.
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Webbers in trouble... His car has slowed considerably. He might be lucky to get back to the pits.
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Webbers in trouble... His car has slowed considerably. He might be lucky to get back to the pits.
back in the pits but terminal. Over and out.
Webber has car failure allowing a German to take the lead.
The more things change the more they stay the same...
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Just settled down for a beer to watch another boring predictable race. Geez I hope it's over soon so I can change the channel
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What.....boring and predictable.......and you live there...why arnt you down at the track taking in the action and the view ;D.....wish I was able to head down 10 mins from home....
Swanny
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What.....boring and predictable.......and you live there...why arnt you down at the track taking in the action and the view ;D.....wish I was able to head down 10 mins from home....
Swanny
Lol.. Yeah been there done it many times. But if you want to watch the race, it's a track that is better on TV. And it's 15min from my place ;D ;D
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Lol.. Yeah been there done it many times. But if you want to watch the race, it's a track that is better on TV. And it's 15min from my place ;D ;D
is there flashing of skin on your front balcony?
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is there flashing of skin on your front balcony?
Yep, but you blokes probably don't want to see it ;D ;D
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Yep, but you blokes probably don't want to see it ;D ;D
think you may be right..............again
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It may or may not look like this
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It may or may not look like this
l do hope that your not some 3 fingered obese yellow dysfunctional bastard :cheers:
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It may or may not look like this
l do hope that your not some 3 fingered obese yellow dysfunctional bastard :cheers:
Nup, that's my twin
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Nup, that's my twin
Clouty?
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Clouty?
Bingo :D ;D
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Another race done. Funny how this one seemed to have a few reverse incidents from Bathurst.
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Speaking of Bathurst, I see in the Courier Mail they are talking about a "Bathurst" style track for Toowoomba up here in Gods Country. (Queensland)
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Anyone from here see the drag racing demonstration on Friday night? Or anyone know anybody who did see it?
What I read from those involved, it was a great success, but I'd love to hear how it was from those on the other side of the fence.
Shane.
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I was wondering over the week-end if you were in it.
We did the Friday drag demo twice, years and years ago and it was always well received and I did read somewhere it went well, but stuff me sideways, I just can't remember where I saw it.
I tell ya, follow it up with Wallybank and get ya name down for it.
Good fun swinging a blown small block at 8,500rpm in top gear, no traction, just rubber and smoke. ;D
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I was wondering over the week-end if you were in it.
We did the Friday drag demo twice, years and years ago and it was always well received and I did read somewhere it went well, but stuff me sideways, I just can't remember where I saw it.
I tell ya, follow it up with Wallybank and get ya name down for it.
Good fun swinging a blown small block at 8,500rpm in top gear, no traction, just rubber and smoke. ;D
(what's a small block ;D )
Nah, I'm still waiting on a set of rods to arrive. Only been on order since August >:(
I used to have to go to Indy, Wankernats, burnout shows etc all the time with work. It's not my scene. Too many people :D
Glad those days of that crap's all over.
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Anyone from here see the drag racing demonstration on Friday night? Or anyone know anybody who did see it?
What I read from those involved, it was a great success, but I'd love to hear how it was from those on the other side of the fence.
Shane.
Saw it on the news. Wished they had promoted it more. Not up for a full day of racing but we would have loved to head in for the night to watch it.
Hopefully will be on again next year
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who's she?
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who's she?
Give it a few weeks and you will know who he is......you'll be chasing him down, but like the rest......you stand next to no chance in hell of catching him......welcome back....
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Give it a few weeks and you will know who he is......you'll be chasing him down, but like the rest......you stand next to no chance in hell of catching him......welcome back....
Lol, that was just a test to flush out Jamie's boy freind lmao..
Ps, ambrose is a hasbeen in v8's, he will just make up numbers maybe running 6 or 7 ish. Let's face it there is at least 5 of the current crop that would way out pace him with the current spec cars and rules. A lot changes in 10 years My 2 cents
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Ps, ambrose is a hasbeen in v8's, he will just make up numbers maybe running 6 or 7 ish. Let's face it there is at least 5 of the current crop that would way out pace him with the current spec cars and rules. A lot changes in 10 years My 2 cents
Maybe, but writing him off seems a big call oldmate. I'll be waiting until he's done a round or 3 before I pass judgement. It's not like he's been out of racing altogether. This is the bloke that put an AU on pole at his first ever round. I'm not expecting him to jump to the front, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did well. As with JW at Red Bull, it will be the team's performance that will make or break his results.
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Maybe, but writing him off seems a big call oldmate. I'll be waiting until he's done a round or 3 before I pass judgement. It's not like he's been out of racing altogether. This is the bloke that put an AU on pole at his first ever round. I'm not expecting him to jump to the front, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did well. As with JW at Red Bull, it will be the team's performance that will make or break his results.
Can see what your saying. And yes the team will have a lot to do with it also
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Same thoughts here. I expect he'll do alright. He'll get a couple of wins, but I can't see him winning a Championship again. He's shown he can throw a NASCAR around a circuit (not an oval) right from the start and they don't seem to be the easiest things to drive. So he's still got the circuit racing ability in him. I also expect DJR/Penske to be strong Team Management wise. With the experience of both of the "Old Blokes", it would be disastrous not to be.
As for Jamie and Redbull, they're cracking under pressure. Jamie gets agitated and loses focus when he's battling. I like that. ;D
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As for Jamie and Redbull, they're cracking under pressure. Jamie gets agitated and loses focus when he's battling. I like that. ;D
They are hardly battling coming off a round win, winning the enduro championship and Jamie is increasing his points lead and is more than a round clear of the rest.
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As a Ford man and fello Taswegien I hope Ambrose does well.
With the right equipment under him I didn't see why he won't be a front runner, its just a matter of DJR/Penske being able to supply that right equipment. 888 will always be there, they have proved they can build a race car. Even with the previous cars (when they did have some slight manufacturer characteristics that were different) it didn't matter if they were building a Ford or Holden they were fast.
And my big prediction is that DJR/Penkse will put one of their existing drivers in for 12 months and will poach Whincup or Lowndes the following year when their contracts are up with 888 so once again if they can build a competitive car they will have two top line drivers. They may even go for youth and try and poach either Vangisbergan or Mcgloughlin?
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As a Ford man and fello Taswegien I hope Ambrose does well.
With the right equipment under him I didn't see why he won't be a front runner, its just a matter of DJR/Penske being able to supply that right equipment. 888 will always be there, they have proved they can build a race car. Even with the previous cars (when they did have some slight manufacturer characteristics that were different) it didn't matter if they were building a Ford or Holden they were fast.
And my big prediction is that DJR/Penkse will put one of their existing drivers in for 12 months and will poach Whincup or Lowndes the following year when their contracts are up with 888 so once again if they can build a competitive car they will have two top line drivers. They may even go for youth and try and poach either Vangisbergan or Mcgloughlin?
I like that prediction.
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They are hardly battling coming off a round win, winning the enduro championship and Jamie is increasing his points lead and is more than a round clear of the rest.
Surfers can't fault his and Dumbrell's drive. Was great. They can count themselves lucky at Bathurst as others were dropping like flies. If that hadn't have happened, he would have had to pick his way through the pack for position and that's where he comes undone. Earlier in the season when things didn't go right, he wasn't up to his standard he is when he's out front.
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I dont think Ambrose will be in the running for a championship next year, but the year after that could be a goer once he's settled in. I think next year it will be GRM taking it to T8 for a championship win
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In car video JB and Mustang Sally from Bathurst.
275 klicks down Conrod isnt a bad effort for the old girl!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLzkwiCRGw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLzkwiCRGw)
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In car video JB and Mustang Sally from Bathurst.
275 klicks down Conrod isnt a bad effort for the old girl!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLzkwiCRGw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLzkwiCRGw)
How cool is that Charger :cup: That thing has got some sting in it ( and not a lot of manners, which is great ;D ) and who ever it is behind the wheel, can drive.
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How cool is that Charger :cup: That thing has got some sting in it ( and not a lot of manners, which is great ;D ) and who ever it is behind the wheel, can drive.
how mad does the stang sound!
hows this one though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_FBHOkQ5lg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_FBHOkQ5lg)
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How cool is that Charger :cup: That thing has got some sting in it ( and not a lot of manners, which is great ;D ) and who ever it is behind the wheel, can drive.
That thing runs a 340. Punted around by Greg Crick from Launceston. i think they call it Alvin!
Vids here:
https://www.facebook.com/CrickMotorsport# (https://www.facebook.com/CrickMotorsport#)
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The Aussie cars are always good value....
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The Aussie cars are always good value....
Yep. How bout the nose dive :cup:
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GO ! the wog Mercedes
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Should be a interesting race with some heavy rain on its way ;D
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I just checked the weather radar for Sydney...... gunna be lots of damage to panels.
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Yep, till they bring the safety car out and slow it all down
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they seem to be keeping it pretty straight so far
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Whoa! That is some serious rain. Race currently red flagged and all cars sitting in pit lane.
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It's all over :(
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No damage..... what a fizzer.
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Twaz a wee bit damp at the end. :o
Foo
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No damage..... what a fizzer.
Like a stick of dynamite with a wet wick ;D
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Stop looking in my bedroom window, ya pervert
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;D ;D. In your dreams only jeepers ;D ;D
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Just read about Ambrose making $33 million in NASCAR over 9 years. Wow, and he was only a mid pack driver. Some serious coin in that sport.
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Yep, you can see why he came back to the v8's. Everybody needs a hobby while in retirement. ;)
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Young Scotty McLaughlan equals Jamie Wincups pole positions and collects a cool $10k. Has pole for this afternoons race. Well done young fella. He reminds me a bit of Craig Lowndes in his personality and ability so could well be a future champion.
Rain possible again today, bring it on.
V8 Superboats ;D
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Yeah agree mate. Scott will be a real champion in years to come I think.
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Young Scotty McLaughlan equals Jamie Wincups pole positions and collects a cool $10k. Has pole for this afternoons race. Well done young fella. He reminds me a bit of Craig Lowndes in his personality and ability so could well be a future champion.
Rain possible again today, bring it on.
V8 Superboats ;D
Go Scotty!!!!!! You bet he will be the next loundsey...
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& they rag on Melbourne for Rain ;D ;D ;D :cheers:
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& they rag on Melbourne for Rain ;D ;D ;D :cheers:
Sydney has worse weather than Melbourne by a country mile. Sydney siders just won't admit it.
Now the 7 feed is dead!
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Sydney has worse weather than Melbourne by a country mile. Sydney siders just won't admit it.
Now the 7 feed is dead!
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Yep back on now
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An Extra ration of Rum for the Men ort to do it :cheers:
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I don't understand how they can declare a result from today's race when they were 11 laps short of doing 75 percent race distance? Unless they've changed the rules, my understanding is that it should'vebeen declared a non race.
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50% complete gets full race now 15.4…4
http://v8media.v8superview.com/documents/OpsManual/2014_Div_D_Update1_1.pdf (http://v8media.v8superview.com/documents/OpsManual/2014_Div_D_Update1_1.pdf)
I thought the same which us why I googled it. As I thought 50 - 75% only 50% points and winter bum would try 2nd....
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Don't get to concerned about the out come , its all beyond the likes of us . >:D ;D ;D ;D :cheers:
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Well there you go... Thanks Garfish
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A new track being built out Tailem Bend way. There are plans to make it a motoring mecca, including a 4WD track and adventure park.
Sounds pretty good!
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2015/02/05/1227209/781860-race-track.jpg)
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/fans-will-enjoy-double-the-clipsal-500-fun/story-fnii0it1-1227209803069?sv=9867489b2d493685c8d20bfd612859a5&nk=e6d6aa3b1084066fb5101d2d89d80075 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/fans-will-enjoy-double-the-clipsal-500-fun/story-fnii0it1-1227209803069?sv=9867489b2d493685c8d20bfd612859a5&nk=e6d6aa3b1084066fb5101d2d89d80075)
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It's not April 1 is it?
More importantly, it's the Bathurst 12 Hour this weekend..
An early morning Sunday to catch the 6AM start. The sound of John Bowe's big Bentley going over the top of the mountain is awesome!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Bowe/222899777735560 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Bowe/222899777735560)
:cheers:
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That nissan can move. The way it went around that Bentley :cup:
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That nissan can move. The way it went around that Bentley :cup:
It was like watching a cat pounce. The 12 hour was a great finish. Might have to make a visit next year.
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It was like watching a cat pounce. The 12 hour was a great finish. Might have to make a visit next year.
Yeah was thinking the same
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Wasn't it great to see the mid engined rigs outclassed by a bit of old fashioned 6 cylinder rear engined grunt, albeit with a couple of extra turbos. Great low down get up and go.
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It was a great race, the finish was brilliant and exciting.
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Wasn't it great to see the mid engined rigs outclassed by a bit of old fashioned 6 cylinder rear engined grunt, albeit with a couple of extra turbos. Great low down get up and go.
:cup:
how good did those Bentleys sound on the noise....