Post by: The punter on February 18, 2018, 09:31:36 AM
You’d be pretty pi$sed off about all of your R and D being basically stolen and profited from, MDC got away with the XT vs AT copies I wonder if there are Australian patents on the breakaway?
Post by: GBC on February 18, 2018, 10:45:49 AM
Post by: The punter on February 18, 2018, 11:27:44 AM
Post by: tryagain on February 18, 2018, 11:45:05 AM
Post by: The punter on February 18, 2018, 11:49:46 AM
It would be interesting to know the price as the difference now is lifestyle are already making their ultra in China, so it is priced pretty well. When the price difference between original and knockoff is smaller I think more will go for the original, it's more so when the difference is in multiples that people are happy enough to deal with some quality control issues for the savings, probably not so much if there isn't large price difference involved.
$24k
Post by: tryagain on February 18, 2018, 12:02:18 PM
$24k
So about the same "Show Special" price as what lifestyle are selling their ultra for, Who would go with a no name knock off when the original from a known brand with a good reputation is about the same price? Seems like lifestyle might have successfully instigated the "if you can't beat them, join them" approach with manufacturing overseas.
Post by: Niley on February 19, 2018, 07:33:03 PM
Post by: woolgoolgaoffroad on February 19, 2018, 08:14:12 PM
That new one has a cut away rear end and different tyre mount compared to the pic with the awning out of the original Ultra
Post by: The punter on February 19, 2018, 09:20:15 PM
looks like in that brochure they have used a pic of the Ultra.
That new one has a cut away rear end and different tyre mount compared to the pic with the awning out of the original Ultra
Well spotted, I think you’re right!
Post by: Benduro on October 11, 2018, 10:51:50 AM
Front kitchen doesn't interfere with bunk layout, fridge at rear can be pushed back into camper in wet weather or when out for security, has an extra window, bunk can be converted to a lounge and there is a pull-out table inside.
Hopefully Lifestyle can benefit by copying back! ;D
Post by: scott8888 on October 11, 2018, 11:23:58 AM
http://www.gcrv.com.au/caravan/suv-sprint-pt4-deluxe/ (http://www.gcrv.com.au/caravan/suv-sprint-pt4-deluxe/)
Post by: The punter on October 11, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
i saw a similar offering from Guardian recently too
http://www.gcrv.com.au/caravan/suv-sprint-pt4-deluxe/ (http://www.gcrv.com.au/caravan/suv-sprint-pt4-deluxe/)
And they have copies of the MDC XT, so the ripper offerers have been ripped off! #karma
Post by: scott8888 on October 11, 2018, 12:07:46 PM
And they have copies of the MDC XT, so the ripper offerers have been ripped off! #karmayeah i saw that Jawa have a similar one too
Post by: McGirr on October 11, 2018, 12:24:20 PM
Its a tough market and they all want a share of it. The market will decide who stays or goes.
Look at rear fold and forward fold.campers. As soon as they were designed they were copied.
Honestly there is not much in new designs around these days.
Mark
Post by: KingBilly on October 11, 2018, 06:57:35 PM
Honestly there is not much in new designs around these days.
And when the original designer just keeps regurgitating their original design for years and years, in the vain hope consumers will continue to pay a premium for an old design, then they should not be surprised when somebody else copies their original design AND IMPROVES UPON IT.
KB
Post by: GeoffA on October 11, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
Post by: macca on October 11, 2018, 07:02:28 PM
None of 'em have enough wheels.....That was my biggest mistake with my current build
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Post by: Rumpig on October 11, 2018, 08:32:19 PM
None of 'em have enough wheels..... :PLifestyle are looking at possibly doing a dual axle set up apparently, I have a mate that tried getting one built by them when he ordered his nearly 2 years ago, but they didn’t want to do it then as they said it’d add to much weight to the set up..
Post by: Aaron Schubert on October 11, 2018, 09:01:33 PM
Aaron
Post by: Troopy greg on October 14, 2018, 02:40:33 PM
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bibra-lake/camper-trailers/camper-trailer/1189301556 (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bibra-lake/camper-trailers/camper-trailer/1189301556)
Post by: rags on October 14, 2018, 04:10:18 PM
Post by: plusnq on October 14, 2018, 04:39:59 PM
This might be similar to the one child policy, one camper type and all to look the same.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :cup: :cup: :cup:
Post by: gronk on October 14, 2018, 05:34:58 PM
This has to be out of the same factory in China as Lifestyles
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bibra-lake/camper-trailers/camper-trailer/1189301556 (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bibra-lake/camper-trailers/camper-trailer/1189301556)
I've crawled over and in the latest Ultra and this looks VERY similar. A couple of cosmetic differences and possibly ( ?? ) different brands of additions ?
Seeing as the Lifestyles are sourced from China, I wonder how much difference in price they are......but with the amount of options available, comparing apples with apples can be hard !
Post by: McGirr on October 14, 2018, 07:35:58 PM
Sorry but they seem too small inside and that awning must take ages to setup.
Mark
Post by: Fullberries on October 14, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Post by: The punter on October 14, 2018, 09:42:25 PM
Sorry but they seem too small inside and that awning must take ages to setup.
Mark
Same as the one supplied with the Reconn, takes 10 mins
Post by: woolgoolgaoffroad on October 16, 2018, 05:53:01 PM