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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chesapeake on July 03, 2021, 09:07:44 PM
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Hi all, anybody got any recommendations on a security camera system that will cover an average corner suburban block? Thinking maybe 4 cameras . mainly to cover front and side gate areas and back yard. Have a drug dealer moved in down the road from my partner and the increased foot traffic has resulted in the odd knobhead in her yard and generally upsetting her. Any preference for wired or wireless systems , or any particular brand or system to go with ? Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks, Luke.
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Speak with a couple of local security companies.. I got a mate in melb who has done this gear all his life.. can shoot u his name etc and see if he has any contacts out that way...
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I only needed one to catch a repeat interloper as the only reasonable access is via the side driveway- https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07GBRV8W5
Needs wifi internet and then you can monitor it anywhere by phone app but a snack to set up :cup:
So you really need a 4 camera setup? Well you don't want every bush shrub or tree waving in the breeze to activate 4 of them as you'll never have the time to view them all. Ipso facto you really want a decent pro setup that works with both movement plus infrared detection to just catch humanoids (assuming you haven't got warm blooded pets to make things even harder). That with decent night vision detection aint cheap (the villains tend to like night time) and like Bird says it's best to speak with the pros for advice and the real McCoy here.
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If you put up a camera and see someone on it, how does that change anything?
You already know that someone has been in the yard.
By the time you see it, call the cops, get them there, the perp will be long gone.
Even if the cops see it and know who it is, they'll just tell them not to do it again.
No real crime as such, is being committed.
Getting rid of the drug dealer might be a better option.
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Something like this? https://www.securitywholesalers.com.au/product/5mp-4ch-hikvision-cctv-kit-4-x-outdoor-turret-dome-cameras-4ch-nvr/ (https://www.securitywholesalers.com.au/product/5mp-4ch-hikvision-cctv-kit-4-x-outdoor-turret-dome-cameras-4ch-nvr/)
Hikvision is ok gear. If night time is your concern, adding an Infrared floodlight will dramaticly increase the night time performance. An I.R flood light that can be got in 12v and run from a garden transformer withe a light sensor for auto on/off https://infronttech.com.au/infrared-illuminators-floodlights/180-high-powered-ir-cctv-lamp-96-leds-80mtr-night-vision.html (https://infronttech.com.au/infrared-illuminators-floodlights/180-high-powered-ir-cctv-lamp-96-leds-80mtr-night-vision.html)
I'm running a 6 camera system into a 2 x 3tb hard drive which gives me about 5 weeks of fulltime imagery storage before it overwrites, a 3TB 4 camera system might give you around a 1 to 2 weeks of continuous storage, or about a month if set on motion activated.
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We put one of these in a couple of years ago: https://www.jaycar.com.au/concord-8-channel-hd-dvr-package-4x1080p-cameras/p/QV5002 (https://www.jaycar.com.au/concord-8-channel-hd-dvr-package-4x1080p-cameras/p/QV5002)
Has provision for 8 wired cameras with 4 IR cameras included.
We have the camera covering the driveway set for continuous recording, with the other 3 on sensor only & it does a pretty good job - the sensors pick up the neighbourhood cats walking through our yard in the middle of the night!
As Jeeps said though, they're really only a make you feel good thing.
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Definitely go NVR over DVR, they are just so much easier and tidier to install.
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If you put up a camera and see someone on it, how does that change anything?
You already know that someone has been in the yard.
By the time you see it, call the cops, get them there, the perp will be long gone.
Even if the cops see it and know who it is, they'll just tell them not to do it again.
No real crime as such, is being committed.
Getting rid of the drug dealer might be a better option.
It's a small town,everyone knows everyone . It's more about identifying who it is. Never said anything about getting police involved.
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So, once you know who it is..... what happens then?
(I assumed you'd call the cops) My mistake there.
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When we looked at cameras the dude said most offenders wear hoodies and caps and you typically won't get a positive ID from them, unless the offender is really stupid.
What about some large/bright LED flood lights for the front yard? This will deter people who like to lurk in the shadows. All you need to do is make your front yard less desirable to loiter in than your neighbours...
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So, once you know who it is..... what happens then?
cheaper than a good security system
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Have always had 4 or 5 cameras ( fake ones ), and a blue done on the front verandah all visible from the street.
I want a deterant, not footage of some unidentifiable scrote after the event.
Never had a break in in 35 years in the city, unlike my neighbors.
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cheaper than a good security system
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haha, yeah if you want your place turned into an ice lab, or just stripped of anything worth money.
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Better off with a dog. I have cameras & had my pushy stolen from the back of the house. Had good footage, gave it all to police. They ended up catching the little Shit, but he wouldn't reveal what he did with the bike. The cops wouldn't give me any info about the Shithead or what punishment he got.
I've now got roller doors on my carports with no access to the backyard. I've also got security lights which light up the suburb(much to the dismay of my neighbours)
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I've also got security lights which light up the suburb(much to the dismay of my neighbours)
Our driveway boarders the neighbours fence and I have multiple LED sensor flood lights on it. One day the neighbour commented about my driveway lights being on and shining into their property. I suggested it would prevent somebody walking up our drive and jumping the fence and getting into their property. Funny how the conversation topic quickly changed :)
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haha, yeah if you want your place turned into an ice lab, or just stripped of anything worth money.
when ya mates sgt at arms you have a little leeway :)
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Bikies..... probably one of them or a bar fly running the house the original poster is referring to.
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when ya mates sgt at arms you have a little leeway :)
The mob in your pic (Rebels) are total scum, like all the rest of the 1%ers.. No way you'd want any association with them whatsoever.
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The mob in your pic (Rebels) are total scum, like all the rest of the 1%ers.. No way you'd want any association with them whatsoever.
I know.. and handy to know :cup: :cup: :cup:
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Bikies..... probably one of them or a bar fly running the house the original poster is referring to.
More than likely one of the bikies minions running the drug house.. Someone mentioned better off with a dog, I agree, but not one of the dogs on two wheels.
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I know.. and handy to know :cup: :cup: :cup:
It's also handy to know what dogsh1t smells like, so you can keep well clear of it..
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It's also handy to know what dogsh1t smells like, so you can keep well clear of it..
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Getting back to the original question, I'm really interested in peoples opinions on security camera setups. Has anybody got wireless cameras or hard wired cameras? Yes we are putting up some motion sensor lights . Thanks , Luke.
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If you put up a camera and see someone on it, how does that change anything?
Don't know about other brand systems, but the one I have you can set up an app on your phone, then set up alert zones on the field of view (either a line, box, or specific area) for each camera. If the camera detects movement in the area you have specified you get a ping on your phone.
Need to have a static IP for this to work though ($10 per month from Telstra). If your asleep at home and your phone goes ding in the night, just look out the window. If your away from home and your phone goes ding, log in and have a looky looky then phone a "friend" if there is something that needs attending to >:D
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Getting back to the original question, I'm really interested in peoples opinions on security camera setups. Has anybody got wireless cameras or hard wired cameras?
Wired, with wireless you still have to get power to the camera or charge/replace the battery. These days you use PoE (power over Ethernet) cameras that only require a network cable, rather than the old school power & video cable requirements.
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Wired, with wireless you still have to get power to the camera or charge/replace the battery. These days you use PoE (power over Ethernet) cameras that only require a network cable, rather than the old school power & video cable requirements.
That's what we've got with the Jaycar system.
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In the last couple of weeks we brought and installed a sensor light come wifi security camera from Bunnings. It a hard wired job and I think the Brand was Orion and was $150. I was a bit sceptical at first, but it's surprisingly good. The video quality is a bit better than 1080P, but not quite 4K from memory. Whatever resolution it is it's pretty good quality video footage, with a zoom feature, that records on a loop to a micro SD.
What I liked particularly was that it uses the 'grid connect' phone app for camera monitoring, that doesn't have any ongoing fees, but I get real time alerts on my phone if the sensor is triggered day or night, can watch live footage from the camera etc whenever I want. The camera set up is via the app also and it's pretty simple in all honesty, even though there's a multitude of set up options and features. There's a number of different types of cameras and security devices that utilise the grid connect app, and I don't think there's any limit to the number of devices you can run through the app. Mine also has a built in two way microphone so you can talk with say a delivery driver if they rocked up to deliver a package.... or better still allows you to ask someone why they are peering into your windows.... From your phone you can set off an inbuilt alarm which is both loud and annoying, which hopefully would be a further deterent.
I plan to buy a second one and mount it under carport to watch over our cars.
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I’ve been scoping out the Reolink brand of security cameras…
Different powered and battery options, with solar panels, etc…
Might be a good middle of the road option…
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I have a Swann setup at home. Was about $1200 for 6 cameras and 2Tb NVR recorder. I have it set to record 24/7, footage lasts about 2 weeks until it starts recording over itself. Pretty good picture, can reads licence plates about 15m away, easy to log on to the app and watch remotely.
All hard wired PoE (cat5 cable to each camera), cables that came with it were too short pretty crappy so I made my own. Had it set to alert me when it detected motion but was too sensitive and my phone was buzzing all day…
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Reolink Argus2 is fully wireless with internet with their solar panel charger or else with a battery cam you'll have to get up there regularly and recharge it-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWVb_cnVX8U
Other than that you'll have to wire/power every camera and with any of them they have to be installed out of easy reach remember.
Edit: Argus 3 now if you like the difference- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAwC9QHxyII
and a Pro version- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b19c5KItS0&t=26s