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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #250 on: August 08, 2015, 08:52:22 PM »
Theres always the rugby,australia actualy look competitive tonight.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #251 on: August 08, 2015, 08:57:50 PM »
Cap'n "bingle" finally crashes and burns.
An Aussie Captain either opens the batting or comes in at 1st drop.
It's called leading from the front.
I have never been impressed by him hiding down the order.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #252 on: August 08, 2015, 08:59:54 PM »
Quote from: B&B on August 08, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
Cap'n "bingle" finally crashes and burns.
An Aussie Captain either opens the batting or comes in at 1st drop.
It's called leading from the front.
I have never been impressed by him hiding down the order.

I wrote a reply to your post then deleted it.

You need to review his stats and then think about your post, you are uninformed.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #253 on: August 08, 2015, 09:09:30 PM »
Quote from: D4D on August 08, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
I wrote a reply to your post then deleted it.

You need to review his stats and then think about your post, you are uninformed.
I guess we can agree to disagree.
For mine he has always been a celebrity first.
Yes, some marvellous innings, as others have, but not there when needed.
Compare his latest over there with Taylor in similar circumstances when we needed a Captain to stand up.
Even his press conference and the 'justification' of playing aggressively was a joke.
There was a reason Bradman was so rarely caught.

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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #254 on: August 08, 2015, 09:14:42 PM »
Clark is a bit of a show pony,youve only got to look at the floosies he knocks around with...btw i said theres always the rugby.
Currently aussies in front
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #255 on: August 08, 2015, 09:15:49 PM »
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I guess we can agree to disagree.

No you need to get informed. Clarke has a better average, run rate and win ratio as captain compared to Taylor.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #256 on: August 08, 2015, 09:19:11 PM »
Quote from: D4D on August 08, 2015, 09:15:49 PM
No you need to get informed. Clarke has a better average, run rate and win ratio as captain compared to Taylor.
and is a bigger show pony than the last 10 captains put together.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #257 on: August 08, 2015, 09:20:37 PM »
Quote from: Bird on August 08, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
and is a bigger show pony than the last 10 captains put together.

Have you not watched what he has done since he ditched bungle?
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #258 on: August 08, 2015, 09:22:30 PM »
Hard to compare captains from different eras.  Taylor certainly had better players at his disposal...

I think the death of phil Hughes affected Clarke more than we (and Clarke himself) realised.

It was his time.  Not convinced that smith has the mental toughness, though...


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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #259 on: August 08, 2015, 09:25:40 PM »
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No you need to get informed. Clarke has a better average, run rate and win ratio as captain compared to Taylor.
My point is that he protected his own run rate, rather than being prepared to bat further up the order when we needed a 1st drop. 
As for 'win ratio' everything other than Ashes tests and tests against 'In Zid' is pretty much there to fill the schedule. Windies are a spent force, and can't take the sub continent seriously these days.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #260 on: August 08, 2015, 09:25:56 PM »
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Not convinced that smith has the mental toughness, though...

x2 but we thought the same of Pup after Punter
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #261 on: August 08, 2015, 09:27:07 PM »
Quote from: B&B on August 08, 2015, 09:25:40 PM
My point is that he protected his own run rate, rather than being prepared to bat further up the order when we needed a 1st drop. 
As for 'win ratio' everything other than Ashes tests and tests against 'In Zid' is pretty much there to fill the schedule. Windies are a spent force, and can't take the sub continent seriously these days.


Again you need to get informed, look at his record in the subcontinent, India and Sri Lanka.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #262 on: August 08, 2015, 09:31:23 PM »
All things said and done. Clarke was an outstanding player.

I take my hat off to him for doing well in probably the most publicly scrutinised job behind the PM.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #263 on: August 08, 2015, 09:32:01 PM »
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Again you need to get informed, look at his record in the subcontinent, India and Sri Lanka.
nobody believes results over there anymore.. Theres more corruption there than sand in the Sahara...
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #264 on: August 08, 2015, 09:35:04 PM »
Quote from: D4D on August 08, 2015, 09:27:07 PM
Again you need to get informed, look at his record in the subcontinent, India and Sri Lanka.
Frankly a bit hard to take cricket in the sub continent seriously. 
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #265 on: August 08, 2015, 09:36:36 PM »
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Frankly a bit hard to take cricket in the sub continent seriously.

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« Reply #266 on: August 08, 2015, 09:38:57 PM »
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #267 on: August 08, 2015, 09:58:33 PM »
England win, regain Ashes
Australia's first loss by an innings away to England for 30 years has seen them officially surrender the Ashes.


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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #268 on: August 09, 2015, 12:25:58 AM »
Ponting reckons up to 8 of the current squad will retire. Harris, Clarke and Rogers have made their intensions clear, lets hope the other 5 are Watson! You'd reckon Haddin, Farwad, Siddle and maybe Voges out of the current squad. Time to fly in the Aussie A boys from India and give them a crack at the last test I reckon!
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #269 on: August 09, 2015, 02:06:47 AM »
Quote from: Bird on August 08, 2015, 09:32:01 PM
nobody believes results over there anymore.. Theres more corruption there than sand in the Sahara...

Quote from: B&B on August 08, 2015, 09:35:04 PM
Frankly a bit hard to take cricket in the sub continent seriously.

No better in tubbies day, we even had involment through Warne and Waugh remember. Also the Sth Africians with Cronje
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #270 on: August 09, 2015, 02:09:34 AM »
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x2 but we thought the same of Pup after Punter

Yep and I wasn't convinced of a punter after Waugh
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #271 on: August 09, 2015, 02:12:59 AM »
Quote from: B&B on August 08, 2015, 09:09:30 PM
I guess we can agree to disagree.
For mine he has always been a celebrity first.
Yes, some marvellous innings, as others have, but not there when needed.
Compare his latest over there with Taylor in similar circumstances when we needed a Captain to stand up.
Even his press conference and the 'justification' of playing aggressively was a joke.
There was a reason Bradman was so rarely caught.

I liked Taylor he was a stand out cricketer and captain but he had a fairly lean spell for a while. And he is on the record discussing the advantageous of captaining and having the ability to call in Warne or McGrath when needed. I don't belive that Clarke has had the same quality of players at his disposal.
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #272 on: August 09, 2015, 07:27:14 AM »
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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #273 on: August 09, 2015, 08:23:03 AM »
Not that long ago Greg Chappell,  after 6 ducks in a row as Capt, said " I'm not playing badly, I was keep getting out".

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Re: 2015 Ashes.
« Reply #274 on: August 09, 2015, 08:25:45 AM »
Yup, both Punter and Taylor had a similar run of bad form. I can't remember if Waugh did though...
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