I wonder why Aussie business's can't get ahead. FED Govt. use BMW.

[Bird]

Under The Gee Tee Labour and Industry Plan, tariffs would be re-introduced to put the price of subsidised/cheap imports back up - everything from lemon juice to traffic light poles to railway carriages - to once again create jobs here.
Now how can I get a job in the gummint?!

Honestly I don't think it would go 1% far enough to reviving this country.

Another big issue is any company investing here in our new economy and era - even if people did take their 80% pay cut for 10 years, would know that after that time, fukwit unions would just strike and demand more and more and we would be right back where we are now within days.

What will be left once the mining crashes and goes away?

[Mace]

What will be left once the mining crashes and goes away?

The other 80% by GDP of our economy.  Yes, it will be an issue in the future, so time to start structural realignment now. Working smarter, more efficiently, and in high value output areas. Time to stop the "good ideas" and smart workers moving offshore, not putting up barricades to cheap imports via tariffs and taxes.

[speewa158]

Why do we need to protect our Pollys                            not worth the bullet                       

[Barry G]

Honestly I don't think it would go 1% far enough to reviving this country.

Another big issue is any company investing here in our new economy and era - even if people did take their 80% pay cut for 10 years, would know that after that time, fukwit unions would just strike and demand more and more and we would be right back where we are now within days.

What will be left once the mining crashes and goes away?

So the 65% pay cut you were touting as the 'solution' a few posts back is now 80%.
Lets just all imagine average wages dropping from approx $65,000 per year to $14,000 per year ... what would be the impact of such huge wage cuts be on the economy? I canjust imagine banks making similar reductions in the outstanding level of loans and required repayments - NOT!!!!

[Terry W4]

Spotted this last night  as The PM went to Parliment house and came back as Ms Gillard.

The security vehicle tailing her and now the recycled  PM in the shot below is a Beemer. These used to be Aussie cars. Prevoiusly an Adventra. Why not Teritorys?

Hands up how many MySwaggers are towing their CTs with Fords or Holdens - thought so.

[Barry G]

Hands up how many MySwaggers are towing their CTs with Fords or Holdens - thought so.

2000 Holden Monterey.   

[kylarama]

Hands up how many MySwaggers are towing their CTs with Fords or Holdens - thought so.

Probably more on here using X5's as a tow car...

[Barry G]

Probably more on here using X5's as a tow car...

LOL, sad but possibly true.

[Marschy]

Hands up how many MySwaggers are towing their CTs with Fords or Holdens - thought so.

FG XR6 is my tug

[Snow]

Hands up how many MySwaggers are towing their CTs with Fords or Holdens - thought so.

2001 Holden Rodeo.

OK, ok, its an Izuzu, but its got a Holden badge on it. 

[Tim - Stratford]

Why do we need to protect our Pollys                            not worth the bullet                       

I thought it was to protect the Protective detail...

[cruisindub]

Hands up how many MySwaggers are towing their CTs with Fords or Holdens - thought so.

1999 Ford Courier ute.      Not flash and not fast. Not even bullet proof.  But I love it, ..............besides. Its all we can afford.

[speewa158]

Its not what you got its where it gets you that counts . Hook up , Hook in & Hook em Down     

[#jonesy]

I tow with a Ford.......Ranger built in Thailand

[MDS69]

Hands up how many MySwaggers are towing their CTs with Fords or Holdens - thought so.

When was the last Australian built by Holden or Ford 4WD last available - thought so.

[Bird]

So the 65% pay cut you were touting as the 'solution' a few posts back is now 80%.
Lets just all imagine average wages dropping from approx $65,000 per year to $14,000 per year ... what would be the impact of such huge wage cuts be on the economy? I canjust imagine banks making similar reductions in the outstanding level of loans and required repayments - NOT!!!!

I said 65% before, and then said 80% as in even if they took 80% over 65% it wouldnt help.

Aussies would never go for it, as they can't see beyond smoko today and the need for a new 100inch TV every 2 years..

If your not competitive in the market place you lose - that is Australia at the moment and the last decade.. Why do you think everything is pissing off to countries that pay $1.00 a week? over our $50-200/hour? Its not cause they like have soup bowl haircuts.

Banks wont give a **** - noting they are one of the biggest "send everything overseas" business out there, Chinese will buy everything that doesnt move - oh thats right they have been for 10 years.

[Barry G]

I said 65% before, and then said 80% as in even if they took 80% over 65% it wouldnt help.

Aussies would never go for it, as they can't see beyond smoko today and the need for a new 100inch TV every 2 years..

If your not competitive in the market place you lose - that is Australia at the moment and the last decade.. Why do you think everything is pissing off to countries that pay $1.00 a week? over our $50-200/hour? Its not cause they like have soup bowl haircuts.

Banks wont give a **** - noting they are one of the biggest "send everything overseas" business out there, Chinese will buy everything that doesnt move - oh thats right they have been for 10 years.

That has always been the case with Australia in the world 'marketplace' - which is why we had tarriffs. A combination of a small home market and large freight distances would always make competitiveness difficult, even if all other factors were 'equal', and they will never be unless Australians are prepared to join a race to the bottom on low wages with China / India / Bangladesh, etc.
I agree that the community wouldn't stand for it, primarily because the economy would grind to a halt with a 70 - 80% reduction in income levels. 

[Bird]

That has always been the case with Australia in the world 'marketplace' - which is why we had tarriffs. A combination of a small home market and large freight distances would always make competitiveness difficult, even if all other factors were 'equal', and they will never be unless Australians are prepared to join a race to the bottom on low wages with China / India / Bangladesh, etc.

Then expect in 15-20 years to be a wasteland. Its going to be hard one way or the other.

I agree that the community wouldn't stand for it, primarily because the economy would grind to a halt with a 70 - 80% reduction in income levels.

Maybe when there are no jobs here apart from data entry jobs for websites for our chinese overlords people will think "Shit maybe we should have"... hindsight is stunning.. I'm more worried about what will happen when my kids attempt to get work here.. they stand **** all hope. They will just keep going with good old labours 457 visas

[Barry G]

Then expect in 15-20 years to be a wasteland. Its going to be hard one way or the other.
Maybe when there are no jobs here apart from data entry jobs for websites for our chinese overlords people will think "**** maybe we should have"... hindsight is stunning.. I'm more worried about what will happen when my kids attempt to get work here.. they stand **** all hope. They will just keep going with good old labours 457 visas

Surely you can't see our kids working for Bangladeshi-like wages as a solution?
There are a number of things I think in hindsight should not have been done.
Among the more recent was the Free Trade Agreement signed with the US by Howard and Costello just prior to the 2004 election. Among other things it sold out our primary industries, while allowing the S to continue to protect theirs.  Also greatly extended the length of copywrite protection, to the benefit of the US.
Many would have seen the 'Button Car Plan' under Hawke as the beginning of the end, however most on here wouldn't be able to afford to drive their Jap 4x4s without it.
Similarly, in relation to de-regulation of the Au$, much of what we purchase and also much of the wage income of many in the mining industry, to cite just one example, would not have eventuated had the Au$ not been floated.
The 'solution' to the extent that there is one, is to extend the concept of fair value wages.  If for no other reason, if the percentage of workers receiving fair wages in secure jobs continues to reduce so will the markets for goods and services, irrespective of the price.

[Bird]

Surely you can't see our kids working for Bangladeshi-like wages as a solution?

honestly I can see them really struggling to be working at all - in AU that is. Sorry but business are closing faster than a hookers legs when you say you have no cash. Or just leaving our shores and relocating. And honestly it makes good business sense. Telstra, Banks, insurance companies, Helpdesks, IT jobs, all outsourced.

The unemployment figures released by the Gov are fiction, or at best "seasonally adjusted"... Its like the debt figures given pre-election, all of a sudden they are brilliant, until after the election when they are "oh Shit, we cant afford all those promises".. But everyone knows that.

There surely wont be the amount of high payed jobs there are now.

[Marcus73]

As mentioned we've priced ourselves out of the market greatly due to this mindset of we all deserve the best of everything. I totally agree that the penalty rates are way over the top causing many businesses not to achieve their full potential. Whilst this might be completely wrong, I personally think that one way to help overcome this would be rather than double time etc, make any overtime/ weekend rates tax exempt, therefore making it easier for businesses and giving employees extra also. While yes the government miss out on some tax dollars, they will pick up extra GST etc. I know of many businesses that don't open their doors on weekends due to high running costs.
Just my thoughts


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[Bird]

As mentioned we've priced ourselves out of the market greatly due to this mindset of we all deserve the best of everything. I totally agree that the penalty rates are way over the top causing many businesses not to achieve their full potential. Whilst this might be completely wrong, I personally think that one way to help overcome this would be rather than double time etc, make any overtime/ weekend rates tax exempt, therefore making it easier for businesses and giving employees extra also. While yes the government miss out on some tax dollars, they will pick up extra GST etc. I know of many businesses that don't open their doors on weekends due to high running costs.
Just my thoughts

Also when you can import an item (Air locker) made at Kilsyth (20klms from here) from the USA and save close to 50% something is wrong. People are importing car tyres! Saving **** loads on what they can get them from here. (EG: Muz saving $800 on his BFG Muddys).. nobody at work buys clothes from here anymore, all imported.. shoes from USA - better than 50% off.

[Barry G]

Also when you can import an item (Air locker) made at Kilsyth (20klms from here) from the USA and save close to 50% something is wrong. People are importing car tyres! Saving **** loads on what they can get them from here. (EG: Muz saving $800 on his BFG Muddys).. nobody at work buys clothes from here anymore, all imported.. shoes from USA - better than 50% off.

Clearly not an issue in relation to cost of manufacture in this instance, would be interested to know why.

[Bird]

Clearly not an issue in relation to cost of manufacture in this instance, would be interested to know why.

Our major stores dont even buy our own produce..Every week farmers are dozing in 100's of acres of produce they cant sell... then when these arsehole scrote companies lie, get massive killer fines of a few bux to teach them a lesson and make sure they never do it again.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/coles-fined-for-helping-australia-grow-with-fruit-from-the-us-and-france-20130701-2p6my.html

[Swannie]

I just started buying produce from aussie farmers direct.. The best fruit I have had in years.

Swannie