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Title: Timber pallets
Post by: genescampbell on April 09, 2019, 09:46:09 PM
Just wanting to know if timber pallets are treated or could they be used as firewood. There seems to be heaps around where i live but no quite sure if they'd be ok to use.


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Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: austastar on April 09, 2019, 10:28:28 PM
Hi,
    The treatment used to be Copper Arcenate, and that left a toxic ash after the fire. I think the smoke/fumes were toxic as well.
The more modern treatments are not as toxic, but I would still be cautious about breathing the fumes and leaving the ash bed on the ground,
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Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: kylarama on April 09, 2019, 11:17:57 PM
The common disposable type pine pallets are untreated.

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Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: BBull on April 10, 2019, 07:22:11 AM
if they have no markings they are plain pine. All treated pallets require to have markings on them.
But that doesn't mean that they all do. With so much stuff coming in from overseas these days I wouldn't risk it.
Fire wood is cheap, it grows on trees.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on April 10, 2019, 12:10:50 PM
From what we see, all the hardwood pallets are treated.  These arent usually given away though. 

Then there are the pine pallets, these often dont seem to be.  But pine also doesnt put out much heat, great for a bon fire like this though!!! 

Check this on youtube!!  https://youtu.be/K1bVZMWs7VQ

Pic from the video here:

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Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: loanrangie on April 10, 2019, 02:03:27 PM
Generally imported pallets are heat treated with some being fumigated, i would have no problem burning them as they aren't treated with carcinogenic chemicals as normal practice.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Beachman on April 10, 2019, 02:27:29 PM
My local mower shop is grateful for taking there untreated pine pallets off there hands. Agree they don't generate as much heat as hardwood, but seeing they are in abundance they are perfect for the home fire pit as I just keep stacking pieces on.   
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: 1302toby on April 11, 2019, 10:36:31 AM
If the pallets are imported they will be marked either HT or CT. HT is heat treated and safe to burn but CT is chemical treated and best left alone.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Fizzie on April 11, 2019, 01:35:09 PM
Pic from the video here:

Think I saw that fire up at Spring Gully when we were there ;D

Bloke drove in towing what looked like a car trailer, filled with pallets - 2 stack wide, 5 or 6 long, 5 high.

That night they built a stack of about 20 of them, let 'er rip, & then kept ? throwin' another pallet on the fire ?.

Fire was probably 3m across, flames were 5m high & no-one was within 10m of it, but, boy, they had a fire >:D
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on April 12, 2019, 02:39:18 PM
Think I saw that fire up at Spring Gully when we were there ;D

Bloke drove in towing what looked like a car trailer, filled with pallets - 2 stack wide, 5 or 6 long, 5 high.

That night they built a stack of about 20 of them, let 'er rip, & then kept ? throwin' another pallet on the fire ?.

Fire was probably 3m across, flames were 5m high & no-one was within 10m of it, but, boy, they had a fire >:D

Aha!  Sounds great!!

Has got me thinking.... We give away around 100 broken pallets each month, most of them pine.  Not sure if they're untreated, but perhaps we can start setting them aside instead for annual MySwag Bonfire in QLD somewhere.........Would of course have to get local fire authority permission & likely involvement.... 

Hmmmm!! I like this idea!!!   :cheers: :cheers:

Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Fizzie on April 13, 2019, 01:12:31 PM
we can start setting them aside instead for annual MySwag Bonfire in QLD somewhere

Sounds great Jon :cup:

& that would also be the weekend that Tentworld brings out all it's new goodies to show off, together with heaps of freebies & so on, wouldn't it! ;D
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on April 14, 2019, 11:43:34 PM
Sounds great Jon :cup:

& that would also be the weekend that Tentworld brings out all it's new goodies to show off, together with heaps of freebies & so on, wouldn't it! ;D

If that's what it takes to get your there Fizzie - anything  ;D 

I hear you do the best chicken dance when you're motivated by prizes ? 
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Fizzie on April 16, 2019, 01:39:54 PM
I hear you do the best chicken dance when you're motivated by prizes ?

Enough alcohol you never know what may happen, but the chicken dance is incredibly unlikely ;D
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on April 16, 2019, 04:13:37 PM
Burn pallets, shameful.

https://www.toowoombahospitalfoundation.org.au/event/pup19creators (https://www.toowoombahospitalfoundation.org.au/event/pup19creators)

For those with stalker book. If you close the photo after it opens you can scroll down to the post apparently.

https://www.facebook.com/toowoombahospitalfoundation/photos/pcb.1155501661277965/1155496517945146/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/toowoombahospitalfoundation/photos/pcb.1155501661277965/1155496517945146/?type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on April 16, 2019, 05:45:20 PM
Burn pallets, shameful.

https://www.toowoombahospitalfoundation.org.au/event/pup19creators (https://www.toowoombahospitalfoundation.org.au/event/pup19creators)

For those with stalker book. If you close the photo after it opens you can scroll down to the post apparently.


You're right, that's an awesome fundraising activity & quite unique - despite also living in Toowoomba I had not heard of it - thank you for letting me know Raym.  Toowoomba Hospital Foundation definitely have some great creative fundraisers that are also community building.  Very impressive.   

We give away loads of broken pallets away each year - most of which I'm quite sure are being burnt but we do not question those who take them off our hands.

Now I know there are some other purposes for them, I'll look to find somewhere to stock pile them to support both projects.  I dont expect construction will use too many. 
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on April 16, 2019, 07:23:36 PM
The Foundation collects pallets for makers but not sure what their need is. I used skids for this as I needed thicker boards to allow for dressing them to be flat with parallel faces for gluing.  Not a project I am keen to repeat, it hasn't been easy.
 
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on April 16, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
The Foundation collects pallets for makers but not sure what their need is. I used skids for this as I needed thicker boards to allow for dressing them to be flat with parallel faces for gluing.  Not a project I am keen to repeat, it hasn't been easy.

Holy smokes Raym, do you mean to say you're the one in the pic who made that rocking horse!?  I think I'm going to have to go to that auction to try win it!!!  Looks terrific!  Well done!
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on April 17, 2019, 06:06:57 AM
Holy smokes Raym, do you mean to say you're the one in the pic who made that rocking horse!?  I think I'm going to have to go to that auction to try win it!!!  Looks terrific!  Well done!

Thank you. This is the second year for this event. This was my effort for last year, it was a doll sized horse, and wasn't real difficult.

https://www.facebook.com/raysrockinghorses/photos/a.1011180692318804/1531989090237959/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/raysrockinghorses/photos/a.1011180692318804/1531989090237959/?type=3&theater)

There were some great furniture pieces last year.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Fizzie on April 17, 2019, 01:25:38 PM
Burn pallets, shameful.

But Ray, not all of us have your skills & ability to turn some "useless", rough bits of timber into a work of art! :-[

 :cup:
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on April 17, 2019, 02:43:40 PM
But Ray, not all of us have your skills & ability to turn some "useless", rough bits of timber into a work of art! :-[

 :cup:

I don't believe that for a moment. Some of the stuff I see other folk do in the shed thread leaves me in awe.

No special skills etc. I just think I am to stupid to recognise stuff I shouldn't try to do.  ;D
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Spada on April 17, 2019, 02:59:56 PM
Raym,

Its not just your talent for shaping the wood that needs to be admired, but also the fact that your putting it to use for a charity event  :cup:

that's what makes the difference between living in a suburb, v's being part of a community.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on May 03, 2019, 10:46:12 AM
Holy smokes Raym, do you mean to say you're the one in the pic who made that rocking horse!?  I think I'm going to have to go to that auction to try win it!!!  Looks terrific!  Well done!

Here you go Jon just to entice you a bit more.

Almost done waiting for some swing iron brackets & hair. The saddle etc isn't fixed yet, need to make sure I haven't got to make adjustments to fit the mane.

Will put up a photo when complete.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on May 09, 2019, 04:40:31 PM
Here you go Jon just to entice you a bit more.

Almost done waiting for some swing iron brackets & hair. The saddle etc isn't fixed yet, need to make sure I haven't got to make adjustments to fit the mane.

Will put up a photo when complete.

WOW Raym - my 3 month old son would love this I am sure!  I am going to have to go to that auction to try win it ! 
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on May 09, 2019, 05:19:45 PM
Done. If I think about doing this again I hope someone slaps some sense into me.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on May 09, 2019, 11:02:52 PM
Done. If I think about doing this again I hope someone slaps some sense into me.

Raym, you'd better hope I win this year then!...
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on July 03, 2019, 07:12:57 PM
Hey Jon delivered the horse to the Hospital Foundation in preparation for the auction on 26th this month.

Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Raym on July 27, 2019, 12:54:00 PM
Well Jon you missed out. The horse went pretty cheap. $1300.
Title: Re: Timber pallets
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on August 09, 2019, 01:50:44 PM
Hi Raym, sadly I couldnt make it in the end to the auction sorry.  $1300 is still a great night out & contribution to the charity.  Nicely done!