Author Topic: Dual clutch automatic gearbox issues (Read 26640 times)

scblack · « **Reply #25 on:** September 15, 2015, 10:21:00 AM »

Quote from: prodigyrf on September 25, 2014, 10:55:15 PM

The answer is CVT now and the manufacturers have cottoned on.

Absolutely agree. My new Forester has a CVT auto transmission and it is brilliant. Very smooth operation, it has flappy paddles to use as a manual function and they genuinely hold gear, like if going down a steep hill with a camper on the back. The only slight negative is taking off from standstill has a momentary hesitation. But at least never shudders like twin clutch auto's can.

WilSurf · « **Reply #26 on:** September 15, 2015, 12:19:53 PM »

I had a CVT in my Fiat Uno, great thing.

tk421 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 15, 2015, 12:43:40 PM »

Quote from: WilSurf on September 14, 2015, 10:26:23 AM

Interesting, when my wife picked up the car the lady at the service desk told her that it would take at least 6 weeks for the pars to arrive.
I have to call and see who is right.

tk421, you have the same issues?
What have they done so far?

Sorry missed this:

Note we only fill up with 95/98 RON

Mirror control knob fell off 2 days after we got it
Rear middle seat belt jammed (warranty replacement of unit)
Knocking in steering column (warranty replacement of bolts???)
1st time Low speed shudder, and going up hill. More so when wife drove it than me. But my fuel use was also a lot higher when I drove it, possibly heavier right foot.

. Told it was because the seal leaks and oil gets in (warranty replacement of clutch seal, remap of throttle/transmission - Average fuel consumption went up

)

2nd time shuddering occurred about 2 years after first time - same symptoms, replaced clutch plate(?) and seal this time)

More info: http://www.caradvice.com.au/321473/ford-fiesta-focus-ecosport-warranties-extended-over-dual-clutch-transmission-shudder/

WilSurf · « **Reply #28 on:** September 15, 2015, 02:34:56 PM »

Same as us, seal leaking.
There is a class action in the US for this: http://fordpowershiftlawsuit.com/

WilSurf · « **Reply #29 on:** October 29, 2015, 01:19:13 PM »

We are looking to replace the Fiesta.
The plan is to have a slightly bigger car as my daughters are getting bigger (as do their backpacks).
My wife would like to have the Prius, but I saw the Mitsubishi ASX a few weeks ago.
That doesn't look that bad at all.
Anyone has experience with the ASX?

prodigyrf · « **Reply #30 on:** October 30, 2015, 02:04:26 PM »

"Anyone has experience with the ASX?"

No but Mitsi make good cars with good warranty and 12M/15000km service intervals and if you check the tow rating and towball download spec that means its a strong body with good suspension and could easily handle a camper. Better rated towing specs than my 2L petrol Suzy SX4 and it's a strong car for its size.

WilSurf · « **Reply #31 on:** October 30, 2015, 04:36:59 PM »

Cheers, but the successor of the Fiesta will not tow the camper trailer.
But it is good to know that the car is build strong.
I haven't driven one, it might be a complete disaster.

prodigyrf · « **Reply #32 on:** October 31, 2015, 12:13:14 AM »

Quote from: WilSurf on October 30, 2015, 04:36:59 PM

Cheers, but the successor of the Fiesta will not tow the camper trailer.
But it is good to know that the car is build strong.
I haven't driven one, it might be a complete disaster.

Yeah I thought you'd probably be looking at the 2WD version as many do with SUV runabouts nowadays but it's nice to know you've got a strong car under you. Still those AWD autos like the ASX can really go places in comfort nowadays but then I'm thinking back to my first SWB Landrover ute

WilSurf · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2016, 06:04:43 PM »

It is almost time to get rid of it.
The gearbox warranty runs out in March and I will have the 120,000 kms service done and have the gearbox/clutch whatever repaired as it has started again.

We are on the look out for a bigger car and my wife sat in an older (2006) RAV4 and likes the sitting position.
She also tried the ASX but didn't like it as much as the RAV4.
We have a budgeted limit so can't afford a new car.
On the wish list are cars that are SUV, automatic, enough space for all the bags, petrol for the shorter distances to school, and fuel 10l/100km or less.
So on the list are CX-7, RAV4 Cruiser, Dualis.

prodigyrf · « **Reply #34 on:** February 12, 2016, 06:28:12 PM »

Have a look at the X-Trail as I picked up a nice spacious 2007 low km auto for the daughter in law and I was impressed with them. Hers was early 2007 but I think the CVT auto ones start with the T31 model from late 2007- http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Nissan-X-Trail-2008/OAG-AD-12285052/?Cr=48

WilSurf · « **Reply #35 on:** March 08, 2016, 12:12:01 PM »

Circumstances has changed again so had the list od cars.
There will be more driving done, and wife wanted a hybrid.
So I kept n eye out for well priced hybrids and one came up: a 2010 Honda Insight VTi-L.
We test drove it yesterday and decided to buy it.
Picking it up next Saturday.

Now, who wants a great little 2010 Fiesta?

tk421 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2016, 01:21:57 PM »

Quote from: WilSurf on March 08, 2016, 12:12:01 PM

Circumstances has changed again so had the list od cars.
There will be more driving done, and wife wanted a hybrid.
So I kept n eye out for well priced hybrids and one came up: a 2010 Honda Insight VTi-L.
We test drove it yesterday and decided to buy it.
Picking it up next Saturday.

Now, who wants a great little 2010 Fiesta?

Shame you bought the Honda. I was going to offer you my 2011. Only 60,000km on it.. and time for its 3rd gearbox repair...

WilSurf · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2016, 02:21:54 PM »

That sounds too familiar.
You still got 1 year of gear box warranty left.

Interesting though rereading your older posts that you are only using premium fuel.
And even then it isn't working.

tk421 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2016, 03:08:51 PM »

Quote from: WilSurf on March 08, 2016, 02:21:54 PM

That sounds too familiar.
You still got 1 year of gear box warranty left.

Interesting though rereading your older posts that you are only using premium fuel.
And even then it isn't working.

I don't think its anything to do with the fuel. The techs at Ford told me its a seal failure letting oil in. All they do is replace it so its going to go again. The transmission remap either holds it in first longer, or changes up earlier, I can't remember which.

Its my wife's car and she only puts Premium in. Its never even had E anything in it. We had a 6 month wait for the last gear box fix the demand was so high.

I drove it the other day and the right front speaker has gone and is distorting. Woeful build quality.

tomo · « **Reply #39 on:** March 08, 2016, 04:00:49 PM »

hi Wilsurf
2x clutches in a Ford Ranger 07-012 model both with the stupid flywheel
Gear box synchro rings stuffed at 70,000km needs ohaul at my cost
The autos in ranger are unreliable also
Did I mention ECU at my cost ,engine had delayed start
NEVER EVER BY A FORD AGAIN

How typical is it of Ford not to check there repairs VERY COMMON

Toyota Hilux My 12 update diesel
3 x clutch replacements clutch saturates with heat and the pressure plate releases ,engine goes poorly just noticeable [no zip]
Although the clock spring in the steering coloumn was passed the recall date by 6mth Toyota replaced it . I paid the labour .
About 2 yrs out of warranty . Toyota are way over priced but compare the service no contest Toyota every day .

tomo

xcvator · « **Reply #40 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:14:34 PM »

I wont tell you what I've had to have done to my Jackaroo

I don't like to see grown people cry

WilSurf · « **Reply #41 on:** March 09, 2016, 11:14:28 AM »

The car is at the dealer now for its 120,000 km service.
Apparently there is a recall for the TCM what ever that is.
That might do it she said.
I told her that it won't.

Bird · « **Reply #42 on:** March 09, 2016, 11:40:22 AM »

Quote from: tomo

2x clutches in a Ford Ranger 07-012 model both with the stupid flywheel
Gear box synchro rings stuffed at 70,000km needs ohaul at my cost

Toyota Hilux My 12 update diesel
3 x clutch replacements clutch saturates with heat and the pressure plate releases

.... to go through that many clutches, and gearboxes... maybe your just a Shit driver

tk421 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 09, 2016, 11:55:01 AM »

Quote from: WilSurf on March 09, 2016, 11:14:28 AM

The car is at the dealer now for its 120,000 km service.
Apparently there is a recall for the TCM what ever that is.
That might do it she said.
I told her that it won't.

You're probably right - but you won't have to worry anymore.

TCM = Transmission Control Module - bolts onto the side of the transmission and has the shift fork motors that do the actual shifting of the gears. Different to the shudder/clutch/seal replacement issue which what we had before. Issues are usually shown by erratic shifting, erratic operation of park assist, hill start assist etc.

I think its another warranty extension/customer service exercise rather than a recall so isn't showing in Recalls.gov.au . US customers had a 10yr warranty extension announced on Feb 20th:

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/mk3-tsb-recall-problems-archive/539602-new-warranty-extension-tcm-14m02.html

WilSurf · « **Reply #44 on:** March 09, 2016, 02:26:21 PM »

The dealer called and said they will do a few extra items, which I have agreed to.
When I asked about the gear box, she told me that hey will do that after the service and that the TCM upgrade will rectify it.
I told her that it isn't not the same issue, however she continued to tell me it is.

tk421 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 09, 2016, 03:32:52 PM »

Quote from: WilSurf on March 09, 2016, 02:26:21 PM

The dealer called and said they will do a few extra items, which I have agreed to.
When I asked about the gear box, she told me that hey will do that after the service and that the TCM upgrade will rectify it.
I told her that it isn't not the same issue, however she continued to tell me it is.

nah. Doubt it will fix it - different symptoms.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUatcpvUONA

tomo · « **Reply #46 on:** March 09, 2016, 04:02:55 PM »

Hi
Bird
Fords have counter weighted flywheels common problem , oh that's right Ford has stopped using them !
Ranger hard shifting clutch / flywheel vibration / synchro rings worn out all common symtoms .
Toyota Hilux clutch fade so so common. Toyota fit aftermarket clutch
These are all design issues so when u comment ,school yourself first . Sounds funny unless u r the one putting up with second rate vehicles .

diff filler in the wrong place to low Ford design . This does explode differentials Ford Design
5th destroying itself there is an up grade Ford Design very common
Cracking heads because egr coolers split Ford Design
Aircons that donot work in very hot weather 290lbs high pressure doh! Ford design
water leaks in heavy rain Ford Lack of design
Injectors flooding with fuel 300kms per tank. 60,000km Lack of quality injector tip. new injectors Ford design

tomo

WilSurf · « **Reply #47 on:** March 10, 2016, 09:59:32 AM »

Guess what.
Ford has resolved it..................Well that's what they say.
Another gearbox will be installed, again.

tk421 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 10, 2016, 11:46:01 AM »

Quote from: WilSurf on March 10, 2016, 09:59:32 AM

Guess what.
Ford has resolved it..................Well that's what they say.
Another gearbox will be installed, again.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- Albert Einstein

WilSurf · « **Reply #49 on:** March 10, 2016, 01:08:57 PM »

When my wife picked up the car, the guy behind the counter started again telling her it was because of we are not using premium fuel.
"The engine runs smoother on premium and will therefore cause less stress on the gearbox and will extend it's life."
Extending it by how long? 10 kms?

Rubbish.

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