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Title: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: RedProw on March 08, 2017, 09:11:19 AM
Hi All,

Looking at driving lights for the new toy. Interested to know any thoughts/comments on the new Lightforce DL230 HTX driving light that uses LED and HID technology. Also interested to know what other brands members would recommend.

Cheers
Brett

Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on March 08, 2017, 09:13:51 AM
I'd say you don't need to spend $1400 to get good spotties.

YMMV

Ps. they sell cheaper at the pub. ;)
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: RedProw on March 08, 2017, 09:15:28 AM
 WOW....that was helpful  ;D
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Beachman on March 08, 2017, 09:23:03 AM
I actually spoke to a guy from ARB last week about these lights as I noticed them on his 4WD and I asked how they compared to the ARB LED lights.

He said the Lightforce are $12 more expensive each than the ARB light and he said while he previously used the ARB LED’s and said they are a fantastic light, he admited these Lightforce are even better as they give 1.7km distance from the HID’s and the ring of LED’s give heaps light to the sides.

They are so bright the come with a 3 way switch.
1 – Off
2 – LED’s only
3 – LED plus HID

Reason for the 3 way switch is once you see another vehicle in the distance at night, you have to turn off the HID part of the light.   

While I would love a set, just don’t do enough night driving to justify the cost.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DannyG on March 08, 2017, 10:17:00 AM
I'd say you don't need to spend $1400 to get good spotties.

YMMV

I agree. I am sure they are a great light at the price they sell for they would want to be. You can get lights that are more than enough for a LOT less. 1.7 klms wow if only I could see that far ;)
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: tonywatto on March 08, 2017, 10:43:23 AM
Have a look at the Aussie made FyrLyt brand. they do different set ups and get good reviews.
they will be my next set. A mate has them and he over researches everything prior to purchase and loves them.

Cheers Tony
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on March 08, 2017, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: DannyG
I agree. I am sure they are a great light at the price they sell for they would want to be. You can get lights that are more than enough for a LOT less. 1.7 klms wow if only I could see that far ;)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/112146105954 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/112146105954) same as I have (but mine werent 555w) and bright as fark. Shit on the Hella 4000's with HID kits I had before. might update to the 555's at that price :D
(http://www.gupatrol.com/myswag/lights/spotties.jpg)

Anyway being Lightforce, they will be top shelf. Always been a fan of their service.

but if you buy em, weld them to the bar.. the quip about selling cheap at the pub is true.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Swannie on March 08, 2017, 11:07:51 AM
I'm seriously looking st the fyrlights
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DannyG on March 08, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Never mind....just realised lost posted a better set  ;D
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: filcar on March 08, 2017, 11:29:01 AM
+1 for fyrlyts.

I have the dimmer 150watt version and they are more than great, can't imagine the light the nemesis would put out!
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: RedProw on March 08, 2017, 11:32:14 AM
Just been looking at the Fyrlyt web site and the 4x4 Australia review.....interesting reading. Decisions, decisions, its doing me head in.........
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Rodt on March 08, 2017, 01:03:26 PM
We are getting the FYRLYTs for 10 of our work vehicles. Not sure which ones but will know soon (next week or so) along with how good they are
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: RedProw on March 08, 2017, 01:19:30 PM
We are getting the FYRLYTs for 10 of our work vehicles. Not sure which ones but will know soon (next week or so) along with how good they are

It will interesting to know your thoughts. I have been reading that some people who have installed the Nemesis 9000 are getting interference through their radio when the lights are being used due to the box that converts the power from 12v to 24v. Unfortunately I can't find any first hand experience, it is all information from someone's mothers, brothers, uncles, sister.....
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Rodt on March 08, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
No dramas mate i will let you know what we end up getting and a view of how good they are
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: callmejoe on March 08, 2017, 05:02:55 PM
I have had XGT 70 watt. XGT 50 watt XGT 35watt,  XGT halogen,  an some of the smaller older modles.
I now have 4 HXT.
These replaced my XGT 70watts.
I think they are a fantastic light.. The ability to swap between different light combos works great. Too much reflection from signs just drop the spot light out. Your still left with a very good broad spread light.
The distance on just the spot light is no where near as much punch  as the XGT 70watts ( which I would rate as 1 of the best long distance lights) but still very affective.
On a 4wd I don't think they'd come much better. 1 light with 2 great qualities. 
Would I buy them again, Yes I would.

Joe


Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Rumpig on March 08, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
If someone else was paying, I'd have a set of HTX's in a heart beat.
Previously had Lightforce XGT 240's on my Cruiser for about 10 years of touring, never had an issue on any corrugated roads  etc ever, so would happily have Lightforce again. Only reason I am not currently running that brand now is, I won some other brand HID spotties in a raffle that now adorn my Cruiser.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DrewXT on March 09, 2017, 09:48:12 AM
We've recently been looking at lights to stock, and have decided on Stedi X-Styles...

They're a good price, and outperform the above mentioned brands, and are made in more or less the same factory.

At around $550 a set, you're also more guaranteed that no-one is going to decide they like them more than you do...

Performance wise, they outperform Lightforce, Fyrlyt, ARB (and their copies from 4WD Supercentre), etc - over 30,000 lumens per light...

Watts don't mean anything in LED terms, as they're rated in lumen output...

My advice would be to have a look at the Stedi product... Everyone we've sold a set to is stoked, including guys who have replaced JW Speaker, Monster Lights, ARB

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Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on March 09, 2017, 10:13:52 AM
We've recently been looking at lights to stock, and have decided on Stedi X-Styles...

They're a good price, and outperform the above mentioned brands, and are made in more or less the same factory.
and I'll do some testing and a review on my freeby set :D
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: jb1 on March 09, 2017, 02:45:57 PM
Has anyone else has an issue with the LED lights and colour contrast of the outside, an example, driving at night to Wedge Is and came round a corner to find 2 kangaroos but i didnt see them till they were basically next to the car. This isnt the first time, i just find with the grey kangaraoos the light from light bars it isnt easy to pick them out. Im now looking at going back to an old halogen style light.
JB
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DrewXT on March 09, 2017, 06:07:12 PM
and I'll do some testing and a review on my freeby set :D
Can do you a special price, Bruce...

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Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on March 09, 2017, 06:30:25 PM
Can do you a special price, Bruce...
Just drop the samples off... You know where the office is... ;D
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DrewXT on March 09, 2017, 06:33:17 PM
Just drop the samples off... You know where the office is... ;D
Might not be the type of sample you're expecting... LOL

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Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on March 09, 2017, 06:54:38 PM
Might not be the type of sample you're expecting... LOL
damn... or you can deliver to sheepyard tomorrow evening?
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DrewXT on March 09, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
damn... or you can deliver to sheepyard tomorrow evening?
Only if Sheepyard is near Portland

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Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on March 09, 2017, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: DrewXT
Only if Sheepyard is near Portland

Small detour for you..
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: peterdeg on March 10, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
I was seriously considering the Fyrlyts and spoke with the guy at the 4wd shop I've used for years about installing them.
He pointed out that Fyrlyts are brilliant (pun unintended) for distance but you really need a bar for spread to cover all bases. (Reputable guy, not having me on)
The cost of Fyrlyts and a quality bar were coming in close to the Lightforce pair.
The Lightforces are Australian made too - that combined with less real estate up front on the Triton convinced me.

I went with the new wiring loom too. Two switches, one for the LEDs and one for the HIDs, both activated by high beam.

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p557/peterdego/newtriton-net/BunnyBurners_zpsjokhky6l.jpg)
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: alnjan on March 10, 2017, 12:16:08 PM
I was seriously considering the Fyrlyts and spoke with the guy at the 4wd shop I've used for years about installing them.
He pointed out that Fyrlyts are brilliant (pun unintended) for distance but you really need a bar for spread to cover all bases. (Reputable guy, not having me on)
The cost of Fyrlyts and a quality bar were coming in close to the Lightforce pair.
The Lightforces are Australian made too - that combined with less real estate up front on the Triton convinced me.

I went with the new wiring loom too. Two switches, one for the LEDs and one for the HIDs, both activated by high beam.


Doesn't that logic contradict itself here.  The lightforce may be made up of leds but a long way short of a bar.  They work the same way as a round led spot light made up of numerous leds.  It is all to do with the reflectors, not some much the shape of a light, bar, round or rectangle.  Sounds like sales speak to get you to buy what he has on the floor, not what may be a different option. 
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: peterdeg on March 10, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
The lightforce may be made up of leds but a long way short of a bar.

Seeing is believing ;-)
The reflector doesn't come into it as the leds are positioned outside of the reflector for the HIDs - essentially it's a circular bar  ???
Personally, I don't think I've made the wrong choice.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Merts on March 10, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
Yep, what Peterdeg said.

The Lightforce DL230 HTXs are an awesome set of lights. Admittedly, for what they cost, they should be.
I put them on my Triton as part of the overall build, and factored them into the budget. I don't regret it.

I have a mate who has a couple of 10 inch Lightforce light bars and a pair of decent IPF HID spotties, and the DL230s outperform both by a large margin.

The LEDs have a wide spread, and basically turn night into day out to around 300m in front of the vehicle and well outside your peripheral vision.
The HIDs give useful light to around 1.7km, which makes night driving on remote rural roads a pleasure.

If you can bring yourself to pay the price, I can highly recommend them.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: alnjan on March 10, 2017, 01:50:32 PM
Seeing is believing ;-)
The reflector doesn't come into it as the leds are positioned outside of the reflector for the HIDs - essentially it's a circular bar  ???
Personally, I don't think I've made the wrong choice.

Each individual led has it's own reflector, hence you have the option of spot or spread leds.  I am not knocking your choice, and I think the Lightforce is a great combo light.  Just commenting on the sales pitch re a lightbar for spread is a bit misleading from the sales person.  Lightbar's are advertised as spot or spread combination.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: achjimmy on March 11, 2017, 06:59:21 AM
I seemed to make the wrong choice with every driving light I buy!

This time I went 240XGT hids , around the mountains and the short roads they are a bit ordinary but in those long straight roads you have in Vic or western Nsw boy are they a great light!  I've added a light bar and happy to stay that way but these combos sound a great solution
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: peterdeg on March 11, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Sounds like sales speak to get you to buy what he has on the floor, not what may be a different option.


Don't believe so. Huge range of stuff readily available (I was actually holding a Fyrlyt when talking with him) and he's been around for years.

http://www.penrithoffroadwarehouse.com.au/ (http://www.penrithoffroadwarehouse.com.au/)

Anyhow, to each his own - we're all friends at kindy ;-)
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Swannie on December 02, 2017, 07:35:29 AM
So guys with the htx still happy with their purchase?
Swannie
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DrewXT on December 02, 2017, 09:21:22 AM
So guys with the htx still happy with their purchase?
Swannie
For that money, is be getting a couple of sets of Stedi 8inch X-Styles.  And getting change

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Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on December 02, 2017, 09:34:01 AM
For that money, is be getting a couple of sets of Stedi 8inch X-Styles.  And getting change

still waiting on my test set...
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Rumpig on December 02, 2017, 12:06:10 PM
Having compared various spottie and light bar set ups side by side at night in an open paddock earlier this year, I'd have HTX's in a heart beat if the cost is not an issue. HTX's easily out performed the other combos we tested, and IMO looked better on the vehicle as a all in one set up
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: callmejoe on December 02, 2017, 12:31:38 PM
I run 4 HXT. On my truck. As a combo light fantastic. The spread is awesome, just as  spotties, but changing over from 4 XGT 70's i was hoping for a little bit more.
But again as a combo light or just spread bee's knee's.
Would be a fantastic light on a 4by...
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Mitch92 on December 02, 2017, 05:01:04 PM
Have 2 on my dmax. Love them, don't regret it at all
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Bird on December 02, 2017, 06:56:41 PM
Quote from: Swannie
So guys with the htx still happy with their purchase?
Swannie
how often are you driving at night these days... ;)
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: callmejoe on December 02, 2017, 07:35:52 PM
For me, plenty....
But I am working.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Rumpig on December 02, 2017, 09:08:29 PM
how often are you driving at night these days... ;)
what's it matter if he can afford them?...if he's after "the best" of what ever and money isn't an issue, then does it matter if he uses it / them once a year?.
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: Swannie on December 02, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
how often are you driving at night these days... ;)

Not that often. But I did just miss a roo the other night, as I go down the list of stuff to get I’m at the . Spotties. I like the new Narva 215 thatvare branded TJM. Basically cause it got a bit of yellow on the front which mactchrs the winch cable 😀
Swannie
Title: Re: Lightforce DL230 HTX XDriving Lights
Post by: DrewXT on December 03, 2017, 09:09:12 AM
Not that often. But I did just miss a roo the other night, as I go down the list of stuff to get I’m at the . Spotties. I like the new Narva 215 thatvare branded TJM. Basically cause it got a bit of yellow on the front which mactchrs the winch cable
Swannie
My personal thoughts, are that unless you're doing over 150km/h, you only need lights that project about 300m, and some flood pattern is imperative.

It's the roo on the side of the road 30-50 metres away that jumps in front of the car, not the one a km down the road...

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