Post by: xcvator on August 08, 2019, 09:48:04 PM
This system is just dumb, it holds up traffic, you can't see a parking spot untill you're level with it and, big deal, it's easier to get out onto the road, stuff me if you can't reverse out without hitting some one you shouldn't be driving
Post by: rags on August 08, 2019, 09:56:57 PM
Have been taught in the 3 workplace sponsored driver training programs that I have attend over the years that the safest way to park is always to reverse park. Keep the pedestrians or other vehicles in your mirrors when you park and in your direct vision as you leave the parking spot.
Has worked for me for many decades.
Post by: rockrat on August 08, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
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Post by: Pete79 on August 08, 2019, 10:01:33 PM
It is fun watching a couple of the mums in their 5” lifted 80 series have a few goes at it and one specific grandma in her 200 series that gives up after a while and double parks at the u-turn bay. ;)
Post by: Troopy_03 on August 08, 2019, 10:15:18 PM
Oops, nose in I meant,
Post by: edz on August 08, 2019, 10:57:25 PM
Post by: Moxley on August 08, 2019, 11:42:14 PM
What absolute moron invented reverse angle parking >:( This would have to be the stupidest system ever foisted on the public. Some councils have had the brains to go to normal drive in angle parking :cup: but a lot seem to be in the dark ages ??? WTF.
This system is just dumb, it holds up traffic, you can't see a parking spot untill you're level with it and, big deal, it's easier to get out onto the road, stuff me if you can't reverse out without hitting some one you shouldn't be driving
I would have thought it holds up traffic less than nose in parking. But, I don’t have facts and figures to back up that assumption.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2019, 03:59:09 AM
What absolute moron invented reverse angle parking >:( This would have to be the stupidest system ever foisted on the public. Some councils have had the brains to go to normal drive in angle parking :cup: but a lot seem to be in the dark ages ??? WTF.
This system is just dumb, it holds up traffic, you can't see a parking spot untill you're level with it and, big deal, it's easier to get out onto the road, stuff me if you can't reverse out without hitting some one you shouldn't be driving
Just another old person who can't drive and wants the world altered to suit his unskilled talent.
Might be time to hand the ol license in....hmmm :police:
Post by: Foo on August 09, 2019, 05:43:35 AM
It's a hell of a lot easier and safer than nose in angled reverse parking, when you are exiting the parking spot.
This is why it should be compulsory. :cheers: I'm sick of dipchits reversing out into the live traffic. >:D
Foo
Post by: Rodt on August 09, 2019, 06:42:27 AM
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2019, 07:02:07 AM
Wouldn't it be good also if the old guys and girls realised that it is meant to be 45 degrees and not 90? ::)
I think he means you Keith..... ;D
Post by: glenm64 on August 09, 2019, 08:35:31 AM
Cheers Glen
Post by: KeithB on August 09, 2019, 08:53:10 AM
I think he means you Keith..... ;D
I think he does too. And he'd be right.
Keith
Post by: chester ver2.0 on August 09, 2019, 09:22:13 AM
What absolute moron invented reverse angle parking >:( This would have to be the stupidest system ever foisted on the public. Some councils have had the brains to go to normal drive in angle parking :cup: but a lot seem to be in the dark ages ??? WTF.
This system is just dumb, it holds up traffic, you can't see a parking spot untill you're level with it and, big deal, it's easier to get out onto the road, stuff me if you can't reverse out without hitting some one you shouldn't be driving
it is simply designed to catch out people who cant drive. the are usually the same ones winging the loudest about it ;D
Post by: BBull on August 09, 2019, 10:07:16 AM
You can visually see the area you are going to park before backing in.
When driving out you can actually see the traffic before you are half way out on the live traffic.
As your first move is forward you can see a lot more in front of you than you could if reversing out.
Its really a no brainer that reverse parking is a safer option, just ask anyone who has nearly hit someone while reversing out of a drive way or parking spot.
Post by: Bird on August 09, 2019, 10:22:27 AM
It's a hell of a lot easier and safer than nose in angled reverse parking, when you are exiting the parking spot.x2.... Wondering who the one stuck in the darkages is :D :D :D
Post by: KeithB on August 09, 2019, 11:01:58 AM
1. You need a lot more road to drive straight in, particularly with a large 4WD. Otherwise you might hold traffic up while you take two bites.
2. You can turn sharper in reverse.
3. Having backed in, when you come out you can see the traffic.
That's three bob.
Keith
Post by: noel_w on August 09, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
Some councils have had the brains to go to normal drive in angle parking :cup: but a lot seem to be in the dark ages ??? WTF.Yeah it's easier to park but if you have a ute with a canopy on it it is a nightmare to reverse out into the traffic as you can't see a bloody thing. If I have the other half with me I have to get her to be my eyes otherwise it is just pot luck and hope the traffic just stops to let me out. A reversing camera won't help you either as the angles aren't right.
Reverse in parking is so much easier.
Post by: noel_w on August 09, 2019, 11:20:46 AM
it is simply designed to catch out people who cant drive. the are usually the same ones winging the loudest about it ;DIt is simply designed to make it difficult for people with a canopy on a ute. No other reason. Nothing to do with their driving ability.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2019, 12:13:59 PM
Must be trying to put out some fires..... after the flame job. :cup:
Post by: Bird on August 09, 2019, 12:18:47 PM
Xcvator seems to be very quiet on this thread now.still trying to reverse park.
Must be trying to put out some fires..... after the flame job. :cup:
Post by: rockrat on August 09, 2019, 12:33:37 PM
Xcvator seems to be very quiet on this thread now.I was thinking the same.
Must be trying to put out some fires..... after the flame job. :cup:
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Post by: xcvator on August 09, 2019, 12:48:36 PM
Xcvator seems to be very quiet on this thread now.
Must be trying to put out some fires..... after the flame job. :cup:
Just looking for some spare petrol >:D >:D
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2019, 01:14:11 PM
Post by: Bird on August 09, 2019, 01:15:37 PM
Any other problems with ya driving ya need advice on?he needs someone to tell him where to go... >:D >:D >:D >:D
Post by: Troopy_03 on August 09, 2019, 02:05:12 PM
Wouldn't it be good also if the old guys and girls realised that it is meant to be 45 degrees and not 90? ::)
Oy, not just old farts that do that... p*sses me orf too. Almost as much as the ones who angle park across 2 parking bays at the supermarket. Just sheer laziness and rudeness.
Post by: gronk on August 09, 2019, 04:04:15 PM
Oy, not just old farts that do that... p*sses me orf too. Almost as much as the ones who angle park across 2 parking bays at the supermarket. Just sheer laziness and rudeness.
Hey, some of those lovely old girls are lucky to actually be able to make the car go in reverse, so looking where the lines are is secondary !! ;D
Post by: rockrat on August 09, 2019, 05:51:02 PM
I keep saying to her “but have you ever looked in the rear vision mirror to check out the carnage you leave behind you?”!
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Post by: gronk on August 09, 2019, 09:26:34 PM
Mum’s in her late 70’s and very proud of her driving record - not a single accident except for the time she drove straight into Lake Macquarie when she was learning to drive
I keep saying to her “but have you ever looked in the rear vision mirror to check out the carnage you leave behind you?”!
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My mum is 90 and still has her full license....but been a fair few yrs since I was game to get in with her !! ;D
Never had an accident either, not sure how many she has caused ?? ;D
Post by: plusnq on August 09, 2019, 10:32:21 PM
Post by: Hoyks on August 09, 2019, 10:56:08 PM
- Over shoot the slot
- back in and park
- having the steering wheels at the front gives makes it so much easier to park the long wheelbase ute
- When its time to leave; Look out the drivers window, find a gap in the traffic and drive out
45 deg drive in on the other hand.... >:(
I visit my sister in Narribri and its nose in 45 down the main street.
- See a park and drive in... (the only advantage)
- Go to leave, so try to look out the left rear window
- but you can't see past the kids head in the back seat
- get the kid to duck down, but now its the rear pillar of the vehicle
- strain your neck trying to see past the pillar
- now you can't see past Felicity's (blond haired farmers wife with the cane shopping basket, you've all see one) Prado/Pajero/Landcruiser that has parked next to you while you were fighting over the view
- cross your fingers and back out and hope that Darren in the B&S ute that is probably cutting laps of Maitland St will stop in time
- while avoiding getting hit from behind you aren't paying attention to the front corner and nearly clean up the back corner of the ute next to you or someone running across the road before Darren completes his hot lap
45 or 90 degree reverse to curb any day of the week.
Post by: xcvator on August 10, 2019, 07:23:42 PM
I've made to this age, you've still got to get here :angel:
Post by: gronk on August 10, 2019, 07:32:06 PM
What a lot of garbage :D have you blokes that stick up for this dumb arse system actually read what you've posted ??? by your own admissions most of you can't reverse or drive :'( you're too busy hanging it on us senior citizens :cheers:
I've made to this age, you've still got to get here :angel:
Mate, don't try and defend you've got old...just admit you can't drive !! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Moxley on August 10, 2019, 11:35:50 PM
What a lot of garbage :D have you blokes that stick up for this dumb arse system actually read what you've posted ??? by your own admissions most of you can't reverse or drive :'( you're too busy hanging it on us senior citizens :cheers:
I've made to this age, you've still got to get here :angel:
We’ll get there safer than you, and with less stress. Sorry mate, but nose in was never a good idea.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 11, 2019, 02:53:57 AM
Mate, don't try and defend you've got old...just admit you can't drive !! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: xcvator on August 11, 2019, 09:19:09 AM
Mate, don't try and defend you've got old...just admit you can't drive !! ;D ;D ;D
I may not be able to drive, but gee I'm a pretty good fisherman 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 :cheers: :cheers:
Post by: edz on August 11, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
Post by: xcvator on August 11, 2019, 10:12:00 AM
:worthles: :worthles: of the catch or it didnt happen Ex ;D
I was referring to all the "bites"I'm getting on here Edz ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: edz on August 11, 2019, 12:23:05 PM
Post by: xcvator on August 11, 2019, 03:04:13 PM
:worthles: :worthles: of the catch or it didnt happen Ex ;D
Just in case you were in doubt tho ;D pics taken of me by Tim Stratford
Post by: gronk on August 11, 2019, 06:23:47 PM
I may not be able to drive, but gee I'm a pretty good fisherman 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 :cheers: :cheers:
Mate, everyone likes to think they have a strong point......yours may be fishing...........but it's not driving !! ;D ;D
Post by: edz on August 11, 2019, 11:26:23 PM
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 12, 2019, 04:56:46 AM
I may not be able to drive, but gee I'm a pretty good fisherman 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 :cheers: :cheers:
Too late to try and get ya self out of it now....
Time to hand in the ol drivers license, sell the car and caravan and stop coming to Queensland.
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on August 12, 2019, 08:19:44 PM
Too late to try and get ya self out of it now....
Time to hand in the ol drivers license, sell the car and caravan and stop coming to Queensland.
Nasty.
Post by: xcvator on August 12, 2019, 09:21:11 PM
What was the saying, 1 small step for me, 1 giant step for mankind :cheers: :cheers:
Post by: Foo on August 13, 2019, 03:07:37 PM
Foo
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Post by: xcvator on August 16, 2019, 02:19:52 PM
Or hazard lights and do whatever you feel like :angel: ( which seems to cover most of the locals )
Post by: Moxley on August 16, 2019, 03:16:38 PM
So just how do you indicate that you're going to park ?Left turn, but going backwardsRight turn, but going backwards to the left
Or hazard lights and do whatever you feel like :angel: ( which seems to cover most of the locals )
If you’re turning left, either forward or backwards, makes more sense to put your left blinker on (and if right, then do the opposite) doesn’t it?
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Post by: Bird on August 16, 2019, 03:20:27 PM
So just how do you indicate that you're going to park ?Left turn, but going backwardsRight turn, but going backwards to the lefthttps://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/ConditionsAndTreatments/dementia-early-signs (https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/ConditionsAndTreatments/dementia-early-signs)
Or hazard lights and do whatever you feel like :angel: ( which seems to cover most of the locals )
Post by: Pete79 on August 16, 2019, 04:02:53 PM
What sort of moron would want to drive straight out of a parking bay when you can have heaps of fun reversing out from here and playing delivery van roulette..... ::)
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Post by: paceman on August 16, 2019, 04:45:29 PM
So just how do you indicate that you're going to park ?Left turn, but going backwardsRight turn, but going backwards to the left
Or hazard lights and do whatever you feel like :angel: ( which seems to cover most of the locals )
Let the brake lights and reverse lights do their job... and alert those behind that you are backing up...
Last time I checked, most (if not all) reverse parking like you are talking about doesn’t have reverse parking options on both sides of the road...
So the indicators become secondary in this case... you should use one (indicating left), but if the brake lights and reverse lights don’t alert those behind you, then I doubt an indicator will...
Not rocket science...
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Post by: Hairs on August 17, 2019, 10:30:46 AM
Nose in parking is for brain dead numties.
See it alot, when it comes to leaving they just reverse out into the lane, sometimes across the street and don't give af what traffic is coming.
I thought it was an offense to pull out into traffic without giving way?
Doesn't't seem to stop them tho.
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Post by: edz on August 17, 2019, 11:50:05 AM
Somehow they end up at a shallower angle with the nose or rear over the line closest to the gutter and the same at the road end .
Some people shouldnt be allowed to steer a car ...
Post by: Hairs on August 17, 2019, 11:54:40 AM
Some people shouldnt be allowed to steer a car ...Or bred.
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Post by: Bigfish on August 17, 2019, 12:23:19 PM
Or bred.
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or breed... ;D
Post by: Hairs on August 17, 2019, 12:28:37 PM
or breed... ;DCheers
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Post by: xcvator on August 17, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Post by: gronk on August 17, 2019, 12:59:38 PM
Post by: Brij on August 17, 2019, 02:06:14 PM
I rate 45 reverse in parking highly.WIN.
- Over shoot the slot
- back in and park
- having the steering wheels at the front gives makes it so much easier to park the long wheelbase ute
- When its time to leave; Look out the drivers window, find a gap in the traffic and drive out
45 deg drive in on the other hand.... >:(
I visit my sister in Narribri and its nose in 45 down the main street.
- See a park and drive in... (the only advantage)
- Go to leave, so try to look out the left rear window
- but you can't see past the kids head in the back seat
- get the kid to duck down, but now its the rear pillar of the vehicle
- strain your neck trying to see past the pillar
- now you can't see past Felicity's (blond haired farmers wife with the cane shopping basket, you've all see one) Prado/Pajero/Landcruiser that has parked next to you while you were fighting over the view
- cross your fingers and back out and hope that Darren in the B&S ute that is probably cutting laps of Maitland St will stop in time
- while avoiding getting hit from behind you aren't paying attention to the front corner and nearly clean up the back corner of the ute next to you or someone running across the road before Darren completes his hot lap
45 or 90 degree reverse to curb any day of the week.
So you can see out the left side and rear good enough to reverse to the left at a prescriptive angle between two white lines and dodging what ever pedestrians might of walked in to the spot whilst you were about to reverse in, but you can't reverse out of a nose in park into a 3 or 4m wide lane?
Wow.
I thought front in parking was a piece of cake. See spot, drive in. Can see all that you need to see out of the big bit of glass in front of the driving position.
Time to go? Select reverse. Look over left shoulder, or shop windows if you can't see anything over left shoulder because of the vehicle to your left, or because you are in van or whatever. When nothing coming reverse out at whatever angle you want, for as far as you need. No precision needed at all.
Learnt to nose in angle park when on my "P"s driving a 8t service truck that barely fitted in a parking bay. Didn't have an issue then. Don't have an issue now. Can't see what is so hard ???
Post by: xcvator on August 17, 2019, 03:37:21 PM
So you can see out the left side and rear good enough to reverse to the left at a prescriptive angle between two white lines and dodging what ever pedestrians might of walked in to the spot whilst you were about to reverse in, but you can't reverse out of a nose in park into a 3 or 4m wide lane?
Wow.
I thought front in parking was a piece of cake. See spot, drive in. Can see all that you need to see out of the big bit of glass in front of the driving position.
Time to go? Select reverse. Look over left shoulder, or shop windows if you can't see anything over left shoulder because of the vehicle to your left, or because you are in van or whatever. When nothing coming reverse out at whatever angle you want, for as far as you need. No precision needed at all.
Learnt to nose in angle park when on my "P"s driving a 8t service truck that barely fitted in a parking bay. Didn't have an issue then. Don't have an issue now. Can't see what is so hard ???
We have a winner :cup: :cheers: :cup: :cheers: :cup: :cheers:
Post by: Hairs on August 17, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
Just come to Yamba in Holiday season when the Mexicans and Canes Toads invade the town. So glad I don't do work there now.
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Post by: Pete79 on August 17, 2019, 04:08:54 PM
Time to go? Select reverse. Look over left shoulder, or shop windows if you can't see anything over left shoulder because of the vehicle to your left.
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The tally of cars that nearly cleaned me up reversing out of that bay yesterday was, 2 x land cruisers, 1 Patrol, a school bus and a Honda.
I reverse into nearly every bay these days, Bunnings, airport parking, school.
It’s really not that hard... Seriously....
Post by: Hairs on August 17, 2019, 04:11:19 PM
It’s really not that hard... Seriously....You said it mate.
'Cheers'
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Post by: xcvator on August 17, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
The tally of cars that nearly cleaned me up reversing out of that bay yesterday was, 2 x land cruisers, 1 Patrol, a school bus and a Honda.
I reverse into nearly every bay these days, Bunnings, airport parking, school.
It’s really not that hard... Seriously....
Have you tried legs lately ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Pete79 on August 17, 2019, 04:30:13 PM
Post by: GBC on August 18, 2019, 07:10:46 AM
Reversing out - you give way to traffic and often can’t see anything.
Not hard to work out.
I lived through Toowoomba in the 80’s/90’s with traffic jams daily directly attributed to the time it takes to blindly reverse out into traffic.
Post by: Bad Scott on August 20, 2019, 05:11:54 AM
Just in case you were in doubt tho ;D pics taken of me by Tim StratfordSo you got an action man doll of ya self
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Post by: xcvator on August 21, 2019, 02:13:16 PM
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 21, 2019, 02:15:08 PM
Post by: Bad Scott on August 21, 2019, 02:15:24 PM
And just to prove my point about morons this was sighted this morning just north of Newcastle NSW FFS ( they really do breed them different up here )Well that ain't acute sign
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Post by: Bird on August 21, 2019, 02:18:15 PM
Playing with photoshop again..... we're onto ya.http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/repealed_reg/arr210/s210.html (http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/repealed_reg/arr210/s210.html)
(4) If information on or with the parking control sign or road marking indicates that the vehicle must be positioned at an angle of 135°, the driver must position the driver's vehicle:
(a) so the vehicle is at an angle as near as practicable to 135°, as shown in example 5 or 6, and
(b) if the vehicle is parked on the side of the road--with the front of the vehicle nearest to traffic in the marked lane or line of traffic next to the part of the road where the driver parks.
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Post by: xcvator on August 21, 2019, 06:16:09 PM
Well that ain't acute sign
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Bit obtuse for you ?
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Post by: xcvator on August 21, 2019, 06:49:38 PM
Makes perfect sense to me... when you reverse into the park, the angle between the footpath and the driver side of the car should make an angle of 135 degrees - assuming the park is on the left, which most are.
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So tomorrow I have to get a protractor ?
Post by: Troopy_03 on August 21, 2019, 06:57:09 PM
And just to prove my point about morons this was sighted this morning just north of Newcastle NSW FFS ( they really do breed them different up here )
Of course it seems strange to you. You also have the date on your pic *rse about face.
Wasn't at Fingal Bay beach was it?
Post by: Bad Scott on August 21, 2019, 07:01:55 PM
So tomorrow I have to get a protractor ?Why not use 3 4 5, line of cords and dividers. Why do you have to make things so difficult for yourself ;D
Post by: Hairs on August 21, 2019, 07:18:12 PM
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Post by: xcvator on August 21, 2019, 07:18:40 PM
Of course it seems strange to you. You also have the date on your pic *rse about face.Use a mirror ;D
Wasn't at Fingal Bay beach was it?
Fingal Bay beach........yep
Post by: xcvator on August 21, 2019, 07:19:53 PM
Get a room you lot (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji2956.png)You gunna join us John ? :cheers:
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Post by: Rodt on August 21, 2019, 07:22:54 PM
Pretty simple isn't it ???
Post by: Troopy_03 on August 21, 2019, 07:26:52 PM
Use a mirror ;D
Fingal Bay beach........yep
I saw that sign a few weeks ago, and I had to stop and think too. LOL
Edit: Yeah, the pure blue sky background gave it away.... hahahahaha 8)
Post by: Bad Scott on August 21, 2019, 07:28:30 PM
135 on one side + 45 on the other = 180Unacceptable. You can’t just post the answer. Did you look at the cheat sheet
Pretty simple isn't it ???
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Post by: Hairs on August 21, 2019, 08:31:56 PM
You gunna join us John ? :cheers:Bring beer,
I'll be there'cheers'
:)
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Post by: Pete79 on August 21, 2019, 10:02:57 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7377779/A-Brisbane-driver-fined-heavily-driving-Australias-filthiest-car-brimming-garbage.html?ITO=applenews (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7377779/A-Brisbane-driver-fined-heavily-driving-Australias-filthiest-car-brimming-garbage.html?ITO=applenews)
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 22, 2019, 04:34:29 AM
Use a mirror ;D
Fingal Bay beach........yep
We use to take the Pontiac sled to the Sugar Shack at Fingal back in the 90's.
It was the old picture theater from memory.
It was cool as, lots of old cars, we just parked wherever we wanted, no lines, no traffic.
Geez, xcvator, even you could've of pulled off a park there back then..... oh, maybe not.
Post by: Bad Scott on August 22, 2019, 04:36:14 AM
Queensland police have released footage of why xcvator can’t reverse into a parking bay.... :PWhat about his FAKE drivers license. 57 year old driver
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7377779/A-Brisbane-driver-fined-heavily-driving-Australias-filthiest-car-brimming-garbage.html?ITO=applenews (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7377779/A-Brisbane-driver-fined-heavily-driving-Australias-filthiest-car-brimming-garbage.html?ITO=applenews)
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Post by: Troopy_03 on August 25, 2019, 08:52:11 AM
And just to prove my point about morons this was sighted this morning just north of Newcastle NSW FFS ( they really do breed them different up here )
Here's a better shot of that sign... Taken yesterday