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Title: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on July 31, 2019, 05:23:22 PM
Hi Campers,

Today Adam from our Tweed Heads store was able to quickly put together a video on the brand new Gasmate Ducted Tent Heater that we've received into stock.

For years, we've been driven mad by not having a solution for our customer who want to heat their tents safely.  Until now!

For more details head to:  https://youtu.be/P9vsVXaUuJQ (https://youtu.be/P9vsVXaUuJQ)

To check it out on our website head to:  https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/gasmate-ducted-camping-gas-heater (https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/gasmate-ducted-camping-gas-heater)

These are in-stock now at all of our locations, so feel free to drop in to take a closer look yourself.

Keen to hear your thoughts on it!

Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: OldPaj on July 31, 2019, 10:00:28 PM
Can you advise what the warm air outlet diameter is as I have another conceivable use for the heater source, other than the camper?
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: SimpleSi on August 01, 2019, 05:14:24 PM
Bizarre it doesn't have a 12v power supply?  240V recharge required, may as well just run a $20 electric fan heater?
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: rockrat on August 01, 2019, 05:28:23 PM
Bizarre it doesn't have a 12v power supply?  240V recharge required, may as well just run a $20 electric fan heater?
But the charging current is surely going to be a lot less than a fan heater draws!

What would concern me more is the statement in the Maintenance section of the manual that it must be serviced every 12 months and service must be carried out by the manufacturer or an authorised agent. I wonder how much is that going to cost each year?


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Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: austastar on August 01, 2019, 05:42:22 PM


....., it must be serviced every 12 months and service must be carried out by the manufacturer or an authorised agent.

Hi,
   Tin pants job,

My Webasto says to discard it after 10 years: another tin pants job.

Cheers



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Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Fizzie on August 02, 2019, 08:44:55 AM
I've never used those little propane cylinders, but you can't disconnect them, then reconnect them again can you ???

Once they're open, that's it ???
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Pottsy on August 02, 2019, 12:33:53 PM
I've never used those little propane cylinders, but you can't disconnect them, then reconnect them again can you ???

Once they're open, that's it ???

No, you can unscrew them and no gas leakage, the little squat units about 75mm high with a dimple in the top actually get pierced, so you can't take off until emptor you lose your gas
Top one, good
Bottom one no good
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: tryagain on August 02, 2019, 01:02:41 PM
One of these and I think you should be able to run it from a standard gas bottle https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/coleman-5ft-gas-hose-38 (https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/coleman-5ft-gas-hose-38)
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: SnakeDoctor on August 02, 2019, 01:59:32 PM
Thanks for posting up the video, all the pictures made the size look awkward with the regulator sticking out, now I can see that it folds up OK.

I'm definitely keen on one of these units, will order it before our next cold camp.
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: tryagain on August 02, 2019, 02:04:35 PM
Bizarre it doesn't have a 12v power supply?  240V recharge required, may as well just run a $20 electric fan heater?

Shouldn't be to hard to adapt to run on a 12v power supply. Depending on battery voltage, should be able to do it with a switch and a connection or a buck converter, switch and connection if the battery isn't 12v
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Fizzie on August 03, 2019, 08:59:59 AM
Would you be able to adapt them to run off a butane cartridge ???

(https://www.bigw.com.au/medias/sys_master/images/images/ha5/hd5/12293262147614.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on August 03, 2019, 01:38:07 PM
Shouldn't be to hard to adapt to run on a 12v power supply. Depending on battery voltage, should be able to do it with a switch and a connection or a buck converter, switch and connection if the battery isn't 12v

The built in battery is a 12v battery.   It isnt designed to be upgraded, so would require DIY modification - and also is not recommended by manufacturer. 

BTW - The unit is designed currently that it has to be recharged, before it can operate again.  It cannot operate & charge at the same time. 

Bizarre it doesn't have a 12v power supply?  240V recharge required, may as well just run a $20 electric fan heater?

Yes, it is disappointing that it doesn't have a 12v power charging option.  However, its consumption is very small so using a small inverter such as https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/dometic-waeco-150w-can-size-inverter (https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/dometic-waeco-150w-can-size-inverter) will mean you can charge your unit from 12v.  You only suffer some small losses converting 12v to 240v so this is fine in my opinion.

Can you advise what the warm air outlet diameter is as I have another conceivable use for the heater source, other than the camper?


The diameter is approx 84mm.  Keen to hear what you're thinking of using it for. 

Would you be able to adapt them to run off a butane cartridge ???

(https://www.bigw.com.au/medias/sys_master/images/images/ha5/hd5/12293262147614.jpg)

No - you couldn't adapt it to run from Butane cartridges, but in all honesty - you wouldnt want to. 

Butane cartridges, because of the butane mixture ratios - performs badly in the cold - it often freezes totally over.  Just when you need it the most!

 If you're unhappy using the larger disposable green bottles.  Then grabbing the hose that TryAgain suggested, is the way to go.  This will let you use any 9kg, or 4.5kg POL BBQ cylinder that you choose.  The cheapest way to access portable LPG.

Here is the link again:  https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/coleman-5ft-gas-hose-38 (https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/coleman-5ft-gas-hose-38)

Hi,
   Tin pants job,

My Webasto says to discard it after 10 years: another tin pants job.

Cheers



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Kind of - because this heater is dealing with enclosed spaces, and carbon monoxide.  The reason for the inspection is to confirm that its working as designed and not not pumping carbon monoxide into the enclosed space. 

Obviously, if it was to do this - and reach critical levels - this wouldnt be good.  People can die.


Thanks for posting up the video, all the pictures made the size look awkward with the regulator sticking out, now I can see that it folds up OK.

I'm definitely keen on one of these units, will order it before our next cold camp.

You're welcome SnakeDodctor. 







Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on August 03, 2019, 01:41:10 PM
Bizarre it doesn't have a 12v power supply?  240V recharge required, may as well just run a $20 electric fan heater?

BTW - 12v electric heaters are horrendously power hungry.  This unit is by far better, because its only powering a small 12v fan, and using LPG to generate the heat.  You would need an incredible battery bank to run a 12v heater fan such as this one that we sell:  https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/marity-ceramic-12v-heater-fan (https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/marity-ceramic-12v-heater-fan)

It is really only good to operate when your engine alternator is running as it draws 12.5 amps. 
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: tryagain on August 03, 2019, 02:41:14 PM
The built in battery is a 12v battery.   It isnt designed to be upgraded, so would require DIY modification - and also is not recommended by manufacturer. 

BTW - The unit is designed currently that it has to be recharged, before it can operate again.  It cannot operate & charge at the same time. 

If it's 12v then a switch like this https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202562012297 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202562012297) wired inline with the feed from the battery, also a socket like this https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F163765061025 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F163765061025) and a reasonable length cable like this
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F262778268893 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F262778268893) and you could easily switch between using an external 12v power source and the internal battery, should also then be able to recharge the battery and run at the same time. Only about $5 worth of components required.
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: tryagain on August 03, 2019, 02:45:52 PM
Yes, it is disappointing that it doesn't have a 12v power charging option.  However, its consumption is very small so using a small inverter such as https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/dometic-waeco-150w-can-size-inverter (https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/dometic-waeco-150w-can-size-inverter) will mean you can charge your unit from 12v.  You only suffer some small losses converting 12v to 240v so this is fine in my opinion.

What's the specs on the 240v plug, would be surprised if there isn't something generic that would work.
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: boobook on August 09, 2019, 08:11:17 AM
Ok this may sound over the top but is it available with a remote control?

It seems to me that the times that would be nice to have heating are just before you go to bed, and when you get up in the morning before getting dressed. Oh and a few times in the middle of the night to have a pee.

A remote control to start it for 10 mins then stop it once snugly back in the sleeping bag would make it much more useful.

Could it be made to work that way?





Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on August 09, 2019, 11:57:00 AM
Ok this may sound over the top but is it available with a remote control?

It seems to me that the times that would be nice to have heating are just before you go to bed, and when you get up in the morning before getting dressed. Oh and a few times in the middle of the night to have a pee.

A remote control to start it for 10 mins then stop it once snugly back in the sleeping bag would make it much more useful.

Could it be made to work that way?


Great idea, and I agree would be very nice to be able to shut it down once toasty in bed and not have to get out.   Sadly, for this one you will have to.

There is no remote and I cant imagine how you could simply add one on with the setup it has currently.   This is a great suggestion for the next model.

For now, some not serious options you could consider are following: 

(https://vingtsunserbia.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/156204_136134073108691_136122029776562_170842_7514079_n.jpg)

Or perhaps, you could do a Mr Bean on it  ;D  https://youtu.be/-1cH5Z37r9M (https://youtu.be/-1cH5Z37r9M)

(http://www.imfdb.org/images/2/26/Mr_bean_pistol6.jpg)

Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on August 09, 2019, 12:09:32 PM
What's the specs on the 240v plug, would be surprised if there isn't something generic that would work.

The powerpack has the following info on it.

Input: 100-240v 0.5amp

Output: 14v DC 500ma



Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Bird on August 09, 2019, 12:15:03 PM
Ok this may sound over the top but is it available with a remote control?

It seems to me that the times that would be nice to have heating are just before you go to bed, and when you get up in the morning before getting dressed. Oh and a few times in the middle of the night to have a pee.

A remote control to start it for 10 mins then stop it once snugly back in the sleeping bag would make it much more useful.

Could it be made to work that way?
how much do you want to spend?
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Spada on August 09, 2019, 02:32:38 PM
Ok this may sound over the top but is it available with a remote control?

It seems to me that the times that would be nice to have heating are just before you go to bed, and when you get up in the morning before getting dressed. Oh and a few times in the middle of the night to have a pee.

A remote control to start it for 10 mins then stop it once snugly back in the sleeping bag would make it much more useful.

Could it be made to work that way?

Could you add one of these - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DC-12V-10A-Relay-1CH-Wireless-RF-Remote-Control-Switch-Transmitter-Receiver-GL-/264316717044
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: OldPaj on August 10, 2019, 07:37:32 PM

The diameter is approx 84mm.  Keen to hear what you're thinking of using it for. 


SIL has a 6 X 6M "shed" which she runs pottery classes in periodically and also it acts as her pottery workshop. She currently has a couple of oil heaters she uses for warmth and we were discussing whether one of these would be suitable with a wall adapter made up to channel the warm air inside.
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: BrindiCruiser on February 16, 2020, 07:59:29 AM

What would concern me more is the statement in the Maintenance section of the manual that it must be serviced every 12 months and service must be carried out by the manufacturer or an authorised agent. I wonder how much is that going to cost each year?


Anyone find out the annual service costs on these units?

 
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on February 18, 2020, 09:51:20 AM
Anyone find out the annual service costs on these units?

I've gone off to find the answer - hope to come back to you soon Brindi.  I dont imagine it's much more than a quick clean of internals and visual inspection of components to ensure they've not been damaged.   But will confirm that for you too. 
Title: Re: NEW! Ducted Tent Heater by Gasmate - Finally.
Post by: Jon Burrell - Tentworld on July 27, 2020, 11:52:58 AM
Sorry for the late reply on this one.

I've been able to confirm from Gasmate that the annual service entails cleaning & inspection. The estimated service cost for this would be $60 should you decide to do it.