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Title: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: MarkVS on October 28, 2016, 09:01:14 AM
Last night, approx 8.30 pm, after driving home from a function on the Sunshine Coast, the traffic was slowed by signs to 40km and directed (by markers etc) into one lane on the main Southbound Motorway to Brisbane. Traffic was banked up for approx 1km.

Then traffic was directed to an off-ramp where there was a service station etc.

The police had setup a huge scenario, with large support/testing trucks,  approx 30 police lined up, undertaking breath testing, followed by police for drug testing, along with Police with torches walking along and inspecting cars while they were being breath tested.

Biggest scenario like this I have ever seen. Clearly getting a message out leading up to the Chrissy period.

And its been all over the radio up here as well so I suggest it's getting the word out as well.


Mark
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: macca on October 28, 2016, 09:09:07 AM
Wait until you see them like down here where they have the Sheriffs office, imigration dept and as well as drug testing check outstanding warrants and fines, RWC etcthe whole bag. There is usually a lot of clamped cars laying around after the finish

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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Green rv on October 28, 2016, 09:32:18 AM
so don't forget we are all guilty until proven innocent 

 :cheers:
Adam
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Bird on October 28, 2016, 09:58:56 AM
Quote from: macca
Wait until you see them like down here where they have the Sheriffs office, imigration dept and as well as drug testing check outstanding warrants and fines, RWC etcthe whole bag. There is usually a lot of clamped cars laying around after the finish

Last Xmas/new years cant remember they had both sides of the Eastlink blocked near the Princes hwy exit at around 11-12 at night... they had been there for few hours, and they were there when I came home still going hard..

They even had the SES there who must have been feeding them.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Rumpig on October 28, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Should be more of it I reckon...couldn't care less about those who complain about being treated as if they are being treated like a criminal and yet done nothing wrong, it's a small inconvenience to pay to get these people caught up with.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: MarkVS on October 28, 2016, 11:56:49 AM
Should be more of it I reckon...couldn't care less about those who complain about being treated as if they are being treated like a criminal and yet done nothing wrong, it's a small inconvenience to pay to get these people caught up with.

I agree... It is a small price to pay to stop someone possibly crossing out of their lane and having an accident with my daughter...or anyone else for that matter.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Pete79 on October 28, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
I agree... It is a small price to pay to stop someone possibly crossing out of their lane and having an accident with my daughter...or anyone else for that matter.
They where too late or perhaps this could be what prompted the crackdown last night (though these large set ups are usually planned well in advance).

My wife was almost cleaned up in the single vehicle accident that blocked the Bruce highway near AussieWorld yesterday morning.

The south bound car left the road at high speed, shot through the centre drain and if not for the concrete culvert on the edge of the large drain, the car would slammed directly into my wife as she was driving north bound.
She said there was no smoke or sign of braking from the on-coming car as it left the road, it just flew off the straight section of road at full speed (100km/h +) and only tipped onto it's side as it hit the culvert a meter or so from her driver's window.

This was pretty much right where the south bound truck left the highway and also slammed into the concrete culvert a few months ago.

We guessed the driver was texting (or otherwise distracted). Perhaps there may have been drugs or alcohol involved, but they must have had an early start to be wasted at 8:20am.





And now for a little rant.

Personally I'd rather see more big RBT setups, it's a much better policing policy then all of those secrete unmarked mobile speed cameras that they love hiding in the bushes up here is QLD.
You get done at an RBT, that's it, you're done. Straight down to the station and off the road.

That guy that nearly cleaned up my wife yesterday could have been doing 150km/h, he could have got booked from the unmarked speed camera that they always try and hide right exactly at that stretch of highway. The cops would have got photo and can collect their money and they'd be happy with that. The fact that 500m up the road he flew across the highway and nearly clean up innocent people is not the cops issue. I mean speed cameras save lives remember.....
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Spada on October 28, 2016, 12:39:11 PM
Wait until you see them like down here where they have the Sheriffs office, imigration dept and as well as drug testing check outstanding warrants and fines, RWC etcthe whole bag. There is usually a lot of clamped cars laying around after the finish

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sounds about right for the Mexican border  ;D
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: scblack on October 28, 2016, 12:41:13 PM
Should be more of it I reckon...couldn't care less about those who complain about being treated as if they are being treated like a criminal and yet done nothing wrong, it's a small inconvenience to pay to get these people caught up with.
100% agree.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Bird on October 28, 2016, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: Pete79
That guy that nearly cleaned up my wife yesterday could have been doing 150km/h, he could have got booked from the unmarked speed camera that they always try and hide right exactly at that stretch of highway. The cops would have got photo and can collect their money and they'd be happy with that. The fact that 500m up the road he flew across the highway and nearly clean up innocent people is not the cops issue. I mean speed cameras save lives remember.....

That has never made sense to me... take me photo speeding, then send me a fine a week or 2 later.. no attempt to stop the speeding and the consequences of that day. But costs money to put cops on the roads.. and it seems nobody wants to be a cop anymore.. They even lowered their requirements several years ago to become one.

I have no issue with drug and RBT buses.. See one in the servo on Eastlink most nights heading out to do their job.

But speed cameras are nothing but a cash grab... why they are known as Flash for Cash.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: tracker on October 28, 2016, 12:46:24 PM
Should be more of it I reckon...couldn't care less about those who complain about being treated as if they are being treated like a criminal and yet done nothing wrong, it's a small inconvenience to pay to get these people caught up with.


Yep....X2
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on October 28, 2016, 12:56:35 PM
Should be more drug testing, a LOT more.

1500+ drivers pulled over and less than 30 drug tested ??? Look at the percentage of those tested compared to those who failed, both breath tests and drug tests. Why isn't there more drug testing?

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/bruce-hwy-blocked-police-both-directions-rbts/3105390/#/0 (http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/bruce-hwy-blocked-police-both-directions-rbts/3105390/#/0)
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: KingBilly on October 28, 2016, 12:57:19 PM
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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: KingBilly on October 28, 2016, 01:03:38 PM
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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Pete79 on October 28, 2016, 01:04:13 PM
Um, they don't hide in bushes  ;D. A police officer is not going to,stand in a bush for 4 hours at a time  ;D

KB

Challenge accepted.
Should I post my photos in here of the 3 hiding spots that I drive passed daily. My personal favorite is the one behind the tree near my local Realestate agent where they get just enough coverage from the F150 that parks a couple of doors down so you can't quite see them clearly, but they can get a good shot of your plates.

And police do not collect any fines.  Once the ticket is issued, Qld Transport manage the payment and collection of fines.  All fines collected go to the goevrnment's consolidated revenue fund.
KB

So we can agree that is IS all about revenue then? ;)
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Pete79 on October 28, 2016, 01:06:16 PM
Should be more drug testing, a LOT more.

1500+ drivers pulled over and less than 30 drug tested ??? Look at the percentage of those tested compared to those who failed, both breath tests and drug tests. Why isn't there more drug testing?


Because....
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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: KingBilly on October 28, 2016, 01:08:36 PM
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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: KingBilly on October 28, 2016, 01:12:34 PM
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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: oldmate on October 28, 2016, 01:13:16 PM
C'mon guys. We came here to learn about campers. It is a camper trailer forum after all. Geezzz!!!
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: tracker on October 28, 2016, 01:30:03 PM
C'mon guys. We came here to learn about campers. It is a camper trailer forum after all. Geezzz!!!

 It's under general discussion.....Not that far removed from caravan cross over.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

              Cheers Tracker....... >:D >:D
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: KingBilly on October 28, 2016, 01:32:42 PM
C'mon guys. We came here to learn about campers. It is a camper trailer forum after all. Geezzz!!!

My apologoes oldmate.  I have removed my posts

KB
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Pete79 on October 28, 2016, 01:44:11 PM
My apologoes oldmate.  I have removed my posts

KB
You didn't have to delete them mate, nothing wrong with anything you wrote.

I would suggest they are having a dig at some other comments in the Tom Toasie thread.

No harm in adding facts into a discussion like this one. ;)
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: tracker on October 28, 2016, 01:46:52 PM
You didn't have to delete them mate, nothing wrong with anything you wrote.

I would suggest they are having a dig at some other comments in the Tom Toasie thread.

No harm in adding facts into a discussion like this one. ;)


 X2

       Cheers Tracker.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Fizzie on October 28, 2016, 01:54:08 PM
I remember what old Bjelke Joh said about it way back when radar's were first being introduced - late '70s?

He reckoned that 1 cop cruising up & down the Highway on a bike slowed down more cars than 1000 radar's ever would, & he was right!  :police:
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: rotare on October 28, 2016, 01:55:10 PM
It always amazes me how many people still run the gauntlet.

I have friends of friends, mature aged and middle class people, who regularly drink drive and drug drive.  They appear to know clearly the law and the possible consequences if caught, but totally play down the risk to other road users.

On this basis alone I'd like to see more RBT's stinging these types.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: tracker on October 28, 2016, 01:57:48 PM
It always amazes me how many people still run the gauntlet.

I have friends of friends, mature aged and middle class people, who regularly drink drive and drug drive.  They appear to know clearly the law and the possible consequences if caught, but totally play down the risk to other road users.

On this basis alone I'd like to see more RBT's stinging these types.


   Yep...me too.....It makes you scratch ya head... don't it ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Pete79 on October 28, 2016, 02:08:04 PM
I remember what old Bjelke Joh said about it way back when radar's were first being introduced - late '70s?

He reckoned that 1 cop cruising up & down the Highway on a bike slowed down more cars than 1000 radar's ever would, & he was right!  :police:

There was a motorbike copper who did the morning peak hour shift on the motorway around Burpengary to Pine Rivers bridge about 8 years ago.
He was awesome at keeping everything flowing.
He'd zip through and make the idiot in the right hand lane get out of the way and stop holding everyone up. Then he would tuck in line line and wait for the other idiot that wanted to go flying through 20ks faster then everyone else. He'd pop out behind them and make them pull into the slow lane. Not pull over, just into the slow lane, I always took it like a yellow card when I saw him do it (once to me I have to admit).

There was so many mornings that I recon that guy was almost solely responsible for keeping that whole highway moving.

Today it's just an in conspicuous black van parked on the side of the road and job done apparently. :(
Title: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: oldmate on October 28, 2016, 02:09:31 PM
My apologoes oldmate.  I have removed my posts

KB



Nah put them back KB. Ive had too much Coke today and am a little wild.
I'm just being a
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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: tracker on October 28, 2016, 02:13:17 PM

Nah put them back KB. Ive had too much Coke today and am a little wild.
I'm just being a
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 great job.... :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: macca on October 28, 2016, 02:50:26 PM
sounds about right for the Mexican border  ;D
Yeah your right you blokes are that far behind, dont worry you will catch up

From what i understand KB has every right to take it personally, as far as I'm concerned it doesnt matter how they get you as long as they get you

On the news this afternoon, drug related driving deaths have now overtaken drink driving related road deaths

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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: lukeycat on October 28, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
That has never made sense to me... take me photo speeding, then send me a fine a week or 2 later.. no attempt to stop the speeding and the consequences of that day. But costs money to put cops on the roads.. and it seems nobody wants to be a cop anymore.. They even lowered their requirements several years ago to become one.

I have no issue with drug and RBT buses.. See one in the servo on Eastlink most nights heading out to do their job.

But speed cameras are nothing but a cash grab... why they are known as Flash for Cash.

Completely agree with you speed cameras do nothing but raise revenue really annoys me when they try and say that it's speed cameras that have reduced the road toll what complete utter crap technology and safety features in cars are the biggest reason the road toll is lower. It's almost impossible to control the idiot factor in relation to speeding drivers cameras don't fix it, as long as there are humans behind the wheel there will be speeding.


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Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Bird on October 28, 2016, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: rotare
It always amazes me how many people still run the gauntlet.

I have friends of friends, mature aged and middle class people, who regularly drink drive and drug drive.  They appear to know clearly the law and the possible consequences if caught, but totally play down the risk to other road users.
Browny back home couldn't get his license back for many many years to come... done for all sorts of siht.

Figured he had nothing to lose.. done jail, done fines, didn't pay em did time to pay em off... And he wouldn't be the only one in this basket.
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Rumpig on October 28, 2016, 04:26:08 PM
C'mon guys. We came here to learn about campers. It is a camper trailer forum after all. Geezzz!!!
:cup: ;D ;D
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: tracker on October 28, 2016, 04:42:14 PM
Ut Ohhhh....the 8 to 5 boys are home....lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: Paddler Ed on October 28, 2016, 05:43:30 PM
Completely agree with you speed cameras do nothing but raise revenue really annoys me when they try and say that it's speed cameras that have reduced the road toll what complete utter crap technology and safety features in cars are the biggest reason the road toll is lower. It's almost impossible to control the idiot factor in relation to speeding drivers cameras don't fix it, as long as there are humans behind the wheel there will be speeding.

The one that's missing there is road design, in particular street furniture and run offs. That makes a difference to older cars that are often driven by the P-Platers. In the UK a lot of the sign post posts are now deforming structures rather than a solid post, this allows a crumple rather than a sudden stop.

The next challenge is teaching people that vehicles that don't deform aren't always the safest... Ok a Chinese tin can that crumples isn't great, but nor is an older Hilux that doesn't crumple isn't going to be much better as the occupant comes to a very sudden stop. What's the adage? Falling from heights doesn't kill, its the landing that does... Try jumping from the top of the bumper with you legs straight when you land* and tells me what happens compared to landing with your knees bent...


(*I take no responsibility for the broken ankles that may ensue)
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: edz on October 28, 2016, 11:37:42 PM
There was a motorbike copper who did the morning peak hour shift on the motorway around Burpengary to Pine Rivers bridge about 8 years ago.
He was awesome at keeping everything flowing.
He'd zip through and make the idiot in the right hand lane get out of the way and stop holding everyone up. Then he would tuck in line line and wait for the other idiot that wanted to go flying through 20ks faster then everyone else. He'd pop out behind them and make them pull into the slow lane. Not pull over, just into the slow lane, I always took it like a yellow card when I saw him do it (once to me I have to admit).

There was so many mornings that I recon that guy was almost solely responsible for keeping that whole highway moving.

Today it's just an in conspicuous black van parked on the side of the road and job done apparently. :(
Those motor bike coppers had been doing that stretch a long long time, saw them on the overpasses many a trip to the Big Go Kart track and Maroochydore .. Mid to late 80's and well into the 90's.
Seam to remember a couple of cardboard cut outs of a police bike and yellow commodore  highway patrol car planted up that at different times way too .
Title: Re: They're getting serious about drink driving and drug testing up here
Post by: DannyG on October 29, 2016, 08:23:43 PM
I have worked nights or at least late afternoons for the best part of 20 years and down here we used to get pulled over on a regular basis late at night for breathos but these day I never get checked on my way home from work.

Im sure its due to budgeting but I wish there was more of it to be honest. Who wants pissed idiots or drug *&^%$@ ^&*#@ driving around risking our lives.

Its not so much the bloke thats had a couple of beers after work, its more the drugs that I worry about. Or perhaps its because I am getting old.

Back in my day, you could have a few beers and drive home. Geez even the stoners would drive around......very slowly and carefully. (yes I know having a few beers and driving was not acceptable, but I am trying to be brutally honest here)
But this ice epidemic is a real concern. These freaks are a real danger. And don't get me started on smart phones.......I don't want to be a hypocrite because I too will have sneaky look at my phone if I get a message at times when I feel it is safe (insert hypocritical "I know better than the experts quote") but young people these days are loosing lives getting involved in accidents because they are waaaay to distracted by smart phones.

Anyway, good on the cops. Its a shame they dont have better budgets to do the job I am sure they wish they could do.