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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gunna Do on October 18, 2010, 06:47:05 PM
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I'm interested in ideas for the storage of chainsaws whilst travelling/touring. I'd prefer something that I could store my saw in, as well as bar oil, premix petrol, 2-stroke oil, and any other bit and pieces that go with chainsawing (including safety gear of course).
I have seen the moulded cases, however don't like these as they would be a PITA to pack (I like square type containers). I'm also not keen on the cases with the bar hanging out the side.
I was thinking along the lines of a square plastic case, or even a bag of some discription.
Also, does everyone who carries a chainsaw, pack it with the bar and chain attached to the saw, or do a few of you travel with the bar and chain separate?
Please include pics if possible. :worthles:
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I have one of these, http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/category40_1.htm
I find it is great as all my gear fits in and the chainsaw is fully protected. I keep 1L of premix in a trangia bottle,http://www.trangia.se/english/2917.trangia_accessories.html. Which will not spill and keeps the smell inside rather than through the cabin, 1L lasts a far while when we go away for a weekend or so. This bag keeps all in order and you can keep the saw ready for use. I also keep all my safety gear inside it.
GG
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For day or weekend trips I keep the saw intact. For longer trips I take the bar & chain off. I just wrap the powerhead in a towel and keep my fuel mix and bar oil in Primus 1L fuel bottles. I have a sports bag which holds my PPE, sharpening kit and wedges etc.
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I was thinking that a space case might be the go. They're lockable and also they don't scream "here is my chainsaw". Was going to spray paint something like "sewage treatment kit" on the outside for further deterrent.
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Was going to spray paint something like "sewage treatment kit" on the outside for further deterrent.
LOL . That'd be for cutting the larger logs up. :-X ;)
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I don;t have a flash storage idea, I just wrap mine in a Hessian sack and bungie it to the roof rack.. i must work on that.
But...You are meant to take the bar off if you plan to carry the saw into or through parks that say no chainsaw so that might sway you.
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We also recently bought the infront bag for our chainsaw, other half was happy. :D
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Keep ours in a Stihl case,
(http://www.stihlusa.com/graphics/chainsaws/carry_storage.jpg)($79) and then its in the tool box on the back of the camper.
(http://www.hairfysh.com/images/DSC07289.JPG)
Prevents the bar oil leaking over stuff and the fuel smell going through the Cruiser or Camper.
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I have a Husqi, 16" bar I think. I purchased it on a deal that included a large rectangular moulded box, that carries the saw, tools, oils. The bar can be left in tact, or, a filler placed in the box and the bar removed.
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Keep ours in a Stihl case,
(http://www.stihlusa.com/graphics/chainsaws/carry_storage.jpg)($79)
I have one of these, but everytime I get th saw out theres oil and crap everywhere if it tips over at all while travelling (which is why I dnot always take it much to mates annoyance :))... Does yours do that or do I have a shagged seal - but its done it since new.
Also interested in what people store their fuel and stuff in while driving. Hate petrol smell...
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I store my fuel mix and bar oil in 1L primus fuel bottles, no smell, no mess.
http://www.primusaustralia.com.au/pdf/pg_5%20721950%20fuel%20bottle.pdf
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I use a Stihl travel case as well. I then pack this in the travel bag on the roofrack.
Lost, An old guy told me to put a piece of towel in the bottom to catch the oil, works a treat.
Craig
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For 'normal' camping i take my 435 and it fits in the draw in the cruiser, the spare chain and tools are in a pencil case and like a lot of others here i use a 1.5l alloy fuel bottle. If i take the bigger saws they have simple draw string canvas bags to cover the power head. The fuel , chaps and tool box goes in the draw. Most saws syphon the chain oil out over time so if i think of it for the trip there and back i tip the oil back in the bottle to stop the mess
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I've been meaning to make a bag for my Husky T435 for a while, but I simply wrap it in a towel and stick it in the front camper box - so far so good.
For touring without the camper, it goes in one of the rear drawers and a small container of fuel gets strapped to the inside of the twin wheel carrier (in a wheel) as the fuel smell drives me bonkers.
I have one of those big plastic orange boxes for the 570 but it's rather weak and a bit of a joke - it won't last long. When I win lotto - I will buy space cases for freaken everything!
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I have one of these, http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/category40_1.htm
I find it is great as all my gear fits in and the chainsaw is fully protected. I keep 1L of premix in a trangia bottle,http://www.trangia.se/english/2917.trangia_accessories.html. Which will not spill and keeps the smell inside rather than through the cabin, 1L lasts a far while when we go away for a weekend or so. This bag keeps all in order and you can keep the saw ready for use. I also keep all my safety gear inside it.
GG
I have the same bag. Holds saw, bar oil, 2 stroke oil and fuel can. This the secures to the roof rack........
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I have one of these, http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/category40_1.htm
I find it is great as all my gear fits in and the chainsaw is fully protected. I keep 1L of premix in a trangia bottle,http://www.trangia.se/english/2917.trangia_accessories.html. Which will not spill and keeps the smell inside rather than through the cabin, 1L lasts a far while when we go away for a weekend or so. This bag keeps all in order and you can keep the saw ready for use. I also keep all my safety gear inside it.
GG
I also have the same bag, and it stores easily in the front gull wing of the KK......best bit about the canvas bags is they don't take up any more room than the saw itself, so less lost room for packing in other stuff.....but it does usually smell a bit from fuel, but the storage side is sealed from the food side, so not a problem !!
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This is what I use for the chainsaw when heading out bush.
Can fit small saw, 5 litre fuel can, chain bar oil, sharpening kit, 2kg gas bottle, plus few other little bits and pieces.
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/cassgazz/100_2923.jpg)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/cassgazz/100_2924.jpg)
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Thanks everyone for you input with this, and whilst I haven't solved the storage problem, I have added a bit of gear as recomended from people on here.
I liked the idea of the smaller fuel bottles so I ordered two Primus 1 ltr bottles from the UK which cost about $54.00 delivered to my door (I went with the 1 ltr bottles as they matched the height of the saw almost perfectly). I've also done away with my 12 volt Stihl sharpener and bought a Stihl sharpening kit (manual type), which I hope will keep my saw from cutting around corners, which seemed to happen after using the 12 volt sharpener.
This is the way I have stored my saw for about 20 years, and whilst it's not ideal, it'll have to do the job for a bit longer yet.
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I've also done away with my 12 volt Stihl sharpener and bought a Stihl sharpening kit (manual type), which I hope will keep my saw from cutting around corners, which seemed to happen after using the 12 volt sharpener.
IMHO powered sharpeners take too much off and can get hot and reduce the temper of the teeth. With a good file, correct guide and vise you can get a chain sharpened in about 15 minutes.
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IMHO powered sharpeners take too much off and can get hot and reduce the temper of the teeth. With a good file, correct guide and vise you can get a chain sharpened in about 15 minutes.
Never really put two and two together and reallised it was the sharpener causing the problem. After consulting a phantom-like chainsaw guru, I was pointed in the right direction.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used Stihl 12 volt chainsaw sharpener. (PM if interested)
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Yep, it makes a huge difference having a properly sharpened saw
BTW http://4x4equip.com.au/ sell the Primus fuel bottles
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I have a tool box on top of my roof rack that holds my chainsaw, oil, fuel, bag of tools, some ropes, in other words, things I do not need to get at that often. It is sealed and works perfectly. It is only a steel tool box, but it is lockable and light. I have it bolted through the bottom and sits behind my second spare wheel, which does not seem to make much difference to fuel economy. I only use a hand file to sharpen the saw. Works just fine and is easy as.
Just one hint! I know some poor fool who went to all of the trouble to carry his chainsaw on a big trip and was just salivating at the thought of heaps of fire wood, except. :-[ This fool did not check before the trip that the chainsaw was in good working order. Well my wife, I mean his wife, just keep saying, ‘Surely you checked it before we left, surely etc etc etc’. Apparently all of the fuel lines were a bit old and just crumpled. To this day I think his wife still says, ‘Have you checked that the chainsaw works this time!’ I think the worst part of that trip was my wife, I mean his wife, having the greatest of pleasure in telling everyone we happen to meet while collecting firewood, ‘Gee, if only we had a chainsaw.’ Then telling the story! ::)
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Huskys have a bit of a prob with their fuel lines perishing over time. One of mine did the other day. I carry a spare in the chainsaw box.
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Huskys have a bit of a prob with their fuel lines perishing over time. One of mine did the other day. I carry a spare in the chainsaw box.
Spare saw or fuel line? :)
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Actually i did have 2 saws but i was ripping that big log i posted up about earlier and the 72 just wouldn't reach the center. Husky fuel lines are special coiled hose but a bit of normal fuel line will do in a pinch.
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Decided to improve my chainsaw storage, and make it a little bit more travel friendly. I bought one of these chainsaw bags from Infront Camping Gear. http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/prod2052.htm (http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/prod2052.htm)
When the bag turned up and I loaded my chainsaw and other associated bit and pieces in, I didn't really like the way when you picked it up everything sagged together. I cut two pieces of 6mm Ply and sandwiched the canvas bottom of the bag between the two pieces, added some rubber feet, and now everything stays where you put it. I'll probably add a tie down strap over the saw later on, but I'll give it a bit of a test run first to see how it goes.
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Thats bloody great. The board in the bottom looks like a good idea.
Thats bags quite affordable as well.
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Thats bags quite affordable as well.
All their stuff is well priced. It was quick delivery and the quality looks to be pretty good as well.
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Looks good and great idea about the floor. Is your PPE in another bag? ;D ;D ;D
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I keep my chainsaw in a toolbox in the back of the Triton along with the recovery gear, tools, exhaust jack etc.
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Looks good and great idea about the floor. Is your PPE in another bag? ;D ;D ;D
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Decided to improve my chainsaw storage, and make it a little bit more travel friendly. I bought one of these chainsaw bags from Infront Camping Gear. http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/prod2052.htm (http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/prod2052.htm)
When the bag turned up and I loaded my chainsaw and other associated bit and pieces in, I didn't really like the way when you picked it up everything sagged together. I cut two pieces of 6mm Ply and sandwiched the canvas bottom of the bag between the two pieces, added some rubber feet, and now everything stays where you put it. I'll probably add a tie down strap over the saw later on, but I'll give it a bit of a test run first to see how it goes.
Gunna Do
Please keep these great ideas coming, some excellent ideas and I don't have to think about it. I am going to my chainsaw bag this weekend :D ;D
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I heard Darren has special order pink chaps :angel:
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Looks good and great idea about the floor. Is your PPE in another bag? ;D ;D ;D
He dosn't need ppe with that
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Gary, thats what I liked about the canvas bag....the ability to "squash" around the saw so it only took up as much room as the saw itself !!!
As far as sharpening, I could do with a lesson from a guru !! ;D ;D
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As far as sharpening, I could do with a lesson from a guru !! ;D ;D
The chainsaw weilding Phantom, is probably the one to ask. He probably needs to do a chainsaw 101 on the topic.
Don't rely on chainsaw retail shops to give you good advice or even to give you the right equipment for sharpening, as I've just recently been let down a little with this.
My new bag has about 20 holes in the bottom of it now, so if the timber bottom doesn't work out, it should drain well. ???
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Pg 32 onwards has some good info on sharpening
http://www.oregonchain.com/maintenance/manual.htm
Get yourself a stump vise and toolkit with the correct size file for your chain and away you go. Should take 10-15 minutes, I give mine a quick sharpen after each tank of fuel, gives the saw a chance to cool down before refilling. I don't like the electric files as they take off too much metal and get hot and therefore change the temper of the metal.
(http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/119085_lg.jpg)
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Never had any success with electric sharpeners either. Takes 10 min with a manual file. As soon as you get the right angle it is an easy job and spending 10 min sharpening saves at least that amount of time in cutting your next lot of timber.
As for carrying it... I keep it in a poly bag to contain the dirt, oil, and other crap that it seems to gather and we keep it in one of the cupboards in the side of the camper. When we are travelling without the CT it sits in the back of the Patrol but need to change that as sometime I can smell fumes from the fuel, etc and I really don't enjoy that.
:cheers:
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I've had the oregon style stuff for about twenty years. Much prefer to do a light touch (1 or 2 strokes per teeth) up each use. When you re learning it is easy to over sharpen and the saw starts to cut curves(towards sharp side).
The tricky part is use. Real railway sleepers (red gum or yellow box) means one cut = one use. Really tough stuff.
I also carry falco/felco 6" folding saws for up to green logs ~ 9". Excellent and quick compared to chain saw unpack, suit up, use, clean up, sharpen, repack.
Thanks for the packing ideas.
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Hi,
I reckon Luke from drifta (http://www.drifta.com.au/) would make a mean chainsaw box if you gave him the dimensions.
cheers
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Having seen Laith's chainsaw bag on the Barrington Tops trip, I think it's worth mentioning, as it is certainly a good idea, and if you haven't got one in the shed, they are readily available on E-bay, and in varying sizes (search Tool Bag). Wished I'd seen these before I bought mine.
Great idea Laith. :cup:
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Yup I carry mine in a Waeco bag
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some interesting trivia re chains,
Modern day saw teeth were designed from the way a borer beetle eats its way through wood. The saw teeth look like a borer beetles teeth/gob whatever borers have and move in the same forward motion chopping through the wood as it goes.
If you havnt got a file guide handy and just round file, Stihl chains have a dark line etched into the top of each of the chain teeth which shows the angle to file at. Maybe other chains do too, but I have only noticed it on my Stihl chains.
anyway, that was interesting !!
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Can't see the value in sharpening a chain, for $10 someone else [better qualified] will do it for me.
BTW I store the saw in a heavy duty canvas bag [the ones Armaguard use to carry the caaaaash in] in my tool box on the CT - will have to find another spot as the Ct is Goooorrrrnn.
Hem
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Can't see the value in sharpening a chain, for $10 someone else [better qualified] will do it for me.
It is very very easy to sharpen a chain and when you do it yourself you know it is done properly. Machine sharpening takes too much metal off and the heat can affect the temper of the teeth.
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I am with you D4D, all I have ever used is a file, and I always have one with my saw, it takes only a few minutes and I have a sharp chain again.
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After seeing Gunna Do's saw bag I realised I had a Dewalt bag not being used in the garage and it might suit the purpose.
My missus bought a couple of these bags off ebay for me a while back.
This bag is 800mm x 300mm. Not sure how much they were worth but I'm confident they weren't all that much.
(http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu116/Laith76/IMG_0542.jpg)
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Perfect fit. :cup:
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The bags seem to be the go will get right on to that :cheers:
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My missus bought a couple of these bags off ebay for me a while back.
jodie goes alright!
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Measured my saw and it is 900 so it wont fit in the Dewalt bag :(
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I recently bought one of those chainsaw bags, an axe cover and they made a 'spade/shovel' end cover so the sharp spade end is covered. The chainsaw bag is very well made. I empty the chain oil reservoir back into the bottle before transport to limit the oil leakage.
As far as chains go, i only take a small stihl 170 with me camping to save space and the chains are only about $20ea so if the file has no luck (i use a manual file) a new chain goes on.
cheers
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My saw is in the aluminum tool box with fuel, chains and all the paraphernalia to make it happen. Its just tied onto the roof. Bar and chain are taken off for smaller space and to ensure I comply with NP expectation for "no chainsaws" rules
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trying to track down some of these Primus fuel bottles, 4x4equip no longer sell them. Anyone know where to get them anymore? Im in SE Melb. Cheers,
http://www.primusaustralia.com.au/index.php?p=line&sid=1286334988 (http://www.primusaustralia.com.au/index.php?p=line&sid=1286334988)
Evan
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Good luck, I think I bought Ian's last few
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Any good outdoor store should sell something similar
GG
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Measured my saw and it is 900 so it wont fit in the Dewalt bag :(
Mine is 850mm, have been looking for a suitable bag for months.
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Decided to improve my chainsaw storage, and make it a little bit more travel friendly. I bought one of these chainsaw bags from Infront Camping Gear. http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/prod2052.htm (http://www.infrontcampinggear.com.au/prod2052.htm)
When the bag turned up and I loaded my chainsaw and other associated bit and pieces in, I didn't really like the way when you picked it up everything sagged together. I cut two pieces of 6mm Ply and sandwiched the canvas bottom of the bag between the two pieces, added some rubber feet, and now everything stays where you put it. I'll probably add a tie down strap over the saw later on, but I'll give it a bit of a test run first to see how it goes.
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If I read every post made here I my know the reasoning behind take your bar off for travelling. If it is a space issue I understand but otherwise I don't. As a member of the SES our chainsaws are always intact, the ones in our smaller vehicle's may not be used for months and our rescue vehicle I was with the service for a year before I even knew where it was in that one.
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Anyone using one of the Drifta Bags?
http://www.drifta.com.au/drifta-made-chainsaw-bags/ (http://www.drifta.com.au/drifta-made-chainsaw-bags/)
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I have an EGO battery number which I keep in an alloy tool box on the roof together with the charger, spare chain plus chain oil.
I lined the box with foam rubber to stop things sliding around and throw snatch traps and spare ropes in as well.
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Found a great bag for the big saw. I have a canvas one for the smaller saw but this is great for the longer bar
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Found a great bag for the big saw. I have a canvas one for the smaller saw but this is great for the longer bar
looks good... local purchase or O/S
$?
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looks good... local purchase or O/S
$?
$135. Melbourne based
GG
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Checkout www.kelmatt.com.au - from their website they seem to have some good stuff.
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Retiring the large Husky and will now take a Milwaukee battery saw and 2 x 12amp batteries plus charger. A lot lighter, quieter and powerful enough for camping. Will get a heavy duty canvas bag made up once I return from my next camp trip in 5 days. Probably get Sarahs canvas to make me one. :cheers: