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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2014, 09:15:43 PM »
Great reply Barrabart. I tend to agree that the mag is completely different to the others for its original slant and the obviously enormous amount of work that goes into it to produce a monthly magazine like this. Keep up the good work Carlisle as there are plenty of us who really like the work and effort you and the team go to.
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2014, 09:47:19 PM »
I too have really enjoyed the mag. The first couple of issues inspired us to leave a dreary Melbourne for 3 months last year and head over to the Coral Coast in WA - so if inspiration is a measure of success, then the mag has worked for me.

Agreed, the recipes are not that inspiring, but Roothies in that other mag are even less appealing. And I did send into readers rigs and got no response. But I'd previously received a very nice PM from Carlisle in response to a comment I had posted on My Swag, so i guess you cant have it all.  I also quite like the Roadkill section and even intend to hunt down a couple of books.

I also filled in the survey , and yes the question were a bit clumsy, but I answered them as best I could and good on Carlisle for taking on board the comments and having another crack at the survey.  Feedback, good and bad, is obviously critical to being able to produce a good product. It might not meet everyone's tastes, I guess it just has to meet enough people's tastes to make it viable.

Keep up the good work Carlisle, but also make sure you do take in board constructive feedback from people who really do want to see your mag work as an alternative to most of the other dross  on the news stands.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2014, 10:02:12 PM »
never buy mags, to much good info here on mysawg. mags are only for reading at the doctors or barber shop.let some other mug buy em.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2014, 10:28:56 PM »

Filled in the survey.

I would like to thank Carlisle for the opportunity to write stories of the myswag trips over the last couple of years with the photos from Symon and Kirsty.

It is hard to do a magazine that would please everyone but the feedback from the public helps. As mentioned some people gave up buying magazines years ago because the content did not suit and with forums these days there is information on alot of topics including trips reports with great photos.

To be different and appeal to everyone is impossible but the advantage is you can talk to the owner of the magazine and offer ideas etc.  This is impossible with other magazines.

Maybe more articles from the general public. Trip reports that give more detail about areas and seen through different eyes.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2014, 10:40:13 PM »
from people who really do want to see your mag work

I don't think anyone doesn't want to see this mag not work, but when you stick your head out and ask for honest feedback you don't always hear what you want to hear.  Good on Carlisle for having a crack and doing it how he thinks it should be done, but doing a monthly magazine is one of the toughest things these days

never buy mags, to much good info here on myswag.

and this is why.  The internet and forums have killed mags, why wait a month for (4 week old) news and 'how to's' when you can have it for free (sort of) at the click of a button.  Remember back 10+ years ago when at the start or end of the month you'd check out the newsagent (or letterbox) for your favorite mag as it was our main source for product reviews, diy tips, or trip reports.
Now you can get it all in 100 times more detail on this site alone, even daily updates with pics of someones big trip.
I used to spend 80 odd dollars a month on different mags (not including 'those' ones ;D), but stopped about 9 years. 1 due to cost and 2 due to getting better content off the net.
I think we're allot more picky of magazines than we used to be, because the only other thing we had to compare it to were other magazines.

Carlisle appears to be doing something different, the other option is to sell out to advertisers.  Music, books, cooking, fishing.  We probably all enjoy at least 2 of those things while camping, why not including them in the mag?


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« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2014, 02:40:00 AM »
I agree.

10 years, I use to look forward to reading a 4wd Monthly when Pat was editor.

Good source of info, product reviews (unbiased), trip reviews and the occasional trip.

Now, magazines want to sell you products, their own product, and most of it is imported rubbish.
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2014, 07:21:28 AM »
never buy mags, to much good info here on mysawg and other forums. mags are only for reading .let sons and friends buy em

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« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2014, 07:33:44 AM »

Stock standard marketing questions.  Broad questions to put you into a specific target group.
Shouldn't be a mandatory question though

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2014, 07:45:05 AM »
I like the twist that Carlisle gives his articles, they are a personal take from his viewpoint not a dumbed down essay written by a sixteen year old drunk monkey. Photography is great, although the pre press work don't do them justice way too dark in the shadows. The inclusion of book reviews etc are fine adds a bit of interest.

My reason for not buying the mags anymore is the destinations are the same, same, same that I've read many times before.

Try and scope the less travelled or covered locations.

The man in the hat seems to cover some areas that don't get the saturation coverage while the blokes with dual cabs and quads cover some really interesting locations.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2014, 09:28:52 AM »
I agree.

10 years, I use to look forward to reading a 4wd Monthly when Pat was editor.

Good source of info, product reviews (unbiased), trip reviews and the occasional trip.


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« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2014, 10:16:20 AM »
They were when I was involved with the mag and did a few

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2014, 10:18:56 AM »
I don't think there is enough fresh information to have monthly magazines anywhere anymore... few hobbys Im in have now gone to 1/4ly and its working a treat.
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« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2014, 09:16:25 PM »
have been thinking about this today and what Carlisle is trying to achieve...
i suppose the question is now-

''What would we like to see in the mag to help and improve it ????"
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2014, 09:29:58 PM »

have been thinking about this today and what Carlisle is trying to achieve...
i suppose the question is now-

''What would we like to see in the mag to help and improve it ????"

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2014, 10:36:27 PM »
the blokes with dual cabs and quads cover some really interesting locations.

Do they?  When the shirts are off I don't seem to notice where they are!   :angel:

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« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2014, 08:58:16 PM »
Where can I buy this Mag?
I have been to different Newo's and not found it. Yep, guilty, I didn't ask, as they were all busy at the time.
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« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2014, 09:09:31 PM »
its a very hard mag to buy, we have 4 paper shops here in coffs and only one sells it with limited stock
great value to subscribe to it
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2014, 09:12:51 AM »
Carlisle I do wish you all the best and understand that you do put your all into what you do . The so called editors of your competition mag's sure need some basic grammar and spelling lessons . Sure the copy may have come from a contributor but isn't it still the editor's job to edit .....?
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2014, 09:44:06 PM »
I don't think there is enough fresh information to have monthly magazines anywhere anymore... few hobbys Im in have now gone to 1/4ly and its working a treat.

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« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2014, 10:03:08 PM »
Where can I buy this Mag?
I have been to different Newo's and not found it. Yep, guilty, I didn't ask, as they were all busy at the time.

Paradise point newsagent normally has it mate
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« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2014, 07:58:04 AM »
Paradise point newsagent normally has it mate
Just near my Fav Pie shop this end of the coast, shall call in today.
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« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2014, 04:09:35 PM »
Paradise point newsagent normally has it mate
I got it.
Now to pk my Arse out the back near the beer fridge, keep 1/4 of an eye on the kids in the pool, and have a good look through it.
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2014, 05:38:10 PM »
I have just read the Feb 2014 copy.
My far from experienced opinion is that it is a clean clutter free mag with out the complications of some others.
Although, I just can't help but wonder who may need a set of points with them on a journey these days in the spares kit, page 46 in the check list.
I liked the mag, nice to find something a bit different from the norm.
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2014, 05:13:22 PM »
Just near my Fav Pie shop this end of the coast, shall call in today.

Lol.  Why is it your fav pie shop?
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