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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2020, 12:14:32 PM »
Quote from: Fizzie on April 18, 2020, 12:09:37 PM
Scotty has said No, it won't ::)

Not so much that he wont, but he would like Australian's to do the right thing and do it. 
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2020, 12:32:34 PM »
Quote from: Fizzie on April 18, 2020, 12:09:37 PM
Scotty has said No, it won't ::)

Seems there could be a bit of wiggle room there, not compulsory, you don't have to have it, you just don't get the relaxation of the current requirements.
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2020, 01:28:52 PM »
Quote from: AllanK on April 18, 2020, 11:48:17 AM
So how does it work when you have contact with some people who don’t have a mobile or aren’t carrying it on them at the time. Bugger, back to the drawing board.
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    That is factored in. 100% is not needed to keep the spread to controllable levels.
Controllable levels is what it is all about.

A bit like having a boat in a storm. Leaks are not wanted, but as long as the bilge pump can pump more water than leaks in, the problem is under controll.

I don't  have a smart phone, just a button and LCD screen. And I only turn it on when I want to call someone.

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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2020, 01:30:40 PM »
Just reading the latest news about the app & noticed

"If those two phones are within 1.5 metres for 15 minutes. It simply swaps phone numbers and names"

Where does it get the name from ???
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2020, 01:43:17 PM »
The media are starting to recognise the possibility- https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/comment-it-wasnt-planned-but-australia-is-on-the-verge-of-an-exciting-possibility/ar-BB12MDrG

As for the tracing app they missed the golden opportunity with making all the handouts dependent on signing onto the app. You can only buy booze and toilet paper if you can show the app on your phone which won't allow it to turn off Bluetooth. LOL.
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2020, 01:44:27 PM »
Quote from: Fizzie on April 18, 2020, 01:30:40 PM
Just reading the latest news about the app & noticed

"If those two phones are within 1.5 metres for 15 minutes. It simply swaps phone numbers and names"

Where does it get the name from ???

Whatever the name you put into your phone to identify yourself.
I don't use my real name in my phones, never have.
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2020, 02:05:25 PM »
Quote from: Kangaron on April 18, 2020, 01:44:27 PM
Whatever the name you put into your phone to identify yourself.
I don't use my real name in my phones, never have.

Well you need to appreciate what the app is about and it's not so much about who you are but have you been tested positive for Covid or has someone you've seriously been in contact with tested positive. In that sense with a suitable time threshold for phone to phone that largely means your family some workmates and the odd friend contact. ie you're not going to be spending more than 15 mins say interacting with the checkout chick at the super. So in that sense grandma might want to know that grandson has Covid or been around someone who has and you're all notified about that. Recall a handful of Qantas baggage handlers at Adelaide airport getting Covid and 750 contacts have to self quarantine but many of those may not have had any/much contact with the infected yet that's the outcome of manual tracing. The app could narrow that down and result in swifter response times so it has merit.
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2020, 02:21:29 PM »
If it means, I go on a register and get a permit to travel freely around, All good, dont know if my old phone will take apps, do they work without  internet ...
As for tracing me Good luck with that .. My phone lives on the fridge roughly 11 months a year with a flat battery ..Hows their fancy phone tracer going now ..
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2020, 08:56:56 PM »
Italians are different to us because they're part of Europe so they need 50% more app take-up than we do despite their misgivings and us being part of Asia  ??? 

"Smartphone apps and other technology have been widely used in Asian countries such as Singapore and South Korea to help rein in contagion, but there have been deep misgivings in Europe over the potential for data abuse and privacy violations."

"Experts say the app would need to be downloaded by at least 60% of the population to help to achieve so-called digital herd immunity."

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/italy-tests-contact-tracing-app-to-speed-lockdown-exit/ar-BB12MVVf
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2021, 12:52:17 PM »
Returning to normal... I remember thinking that
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2021, 06:21:42 PM »
Hasn't really changed that much for us
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2021, 06:31:40 PM »
Quote from: alnjan on June 05, 2021, 06:21:42 PM
Hasn't really changed that much for us

Have to agree, other than the 5 day lockdown we have been pretty lucky in SA, normal is now QR codes at business premises and more travel intra-state rather than interstate.
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2021, 04:08:42 AM »
Life in Qld... well, for us anyway, hasn't really changed at all.

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« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2021, 07:05:10 AM »
Count your blessings, gents.....
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2021, 07:12:21 AM »
Quote from: GeoffA on June 06, 2021, 07:05:10 AM
Count your blessings, gents.....

Oh hell yeah..
We're lucky, as we haven't had a lock down where we are at all.
Mrs Jeepers was working from home for a bit, but has been back to the office for some time now.

We were only saying last night, how Vic/Melbourne seems to be the place to be as far as covid goes now.
Buggered if i know why.

I watched the news last night for the first time in months.... which was were the conversation came from.
Normally, i just read the odd news site.
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #65 on: June 06, 2021, 07:26:39 AM »
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 06, 2021, 07:12:21 AM
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Buggered if i know why.
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A multi-cultural society, combined with sub-optimal quarantine arrangements....
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #66 on: June 06, 2021, 07:28:57 AM »
Quote from: GeoffA on June 06, 2021, 07:26:39 AM
A multi-cultural society, combined with sub-optimal quarantine arrangements in other states....

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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2021, 07:32:17 AM »
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I fixed it for you

Correct Jamie. I was trying to keep it generic...
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Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2021, 08:17:52 AM »
Quote from: GeoffA on June 06, 2021, 07:26:39 AM
A multi-cultural society
I know this wasn’t the point of this thread, but I read a very interesting article recently trying to work out why VIC is such a hot spot.
It didn’t have any answers, but did squash a heap of myths going around at the moment.

I’ll see if I can find it later and put a link up, but some of the main points were;

WA is actually the most multicultural state in Australia, with considerably more people born in countries other then AU living there.

NSW is overall more densely populated then VIC and Sydney has more individual high density property developments then Melbourne.

Both NSW and VIC are pretty much equal in their use of public transport. I’m pretty sure NSW used trains/trams/buses/etc slightly more the VIC.

So there isn’t really any statistical reason for you guys to be suffering so much worse then the rest of the country.

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Found it; https://theconversation.com/why-has-victoria-struggled-more-than-nsw-with-covid-to-a-demographer-theyre-not-that-different-161996
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #69 on: June 06, 2021, 08:42:34 AM »
You've cherry-picked there, Pete.
Multi-culturalism on its' own isn't the issue.
It's the COMBINATION that's creating the issues for us.

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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2021, 08:58:19 AM »
"  Attitude "  Of all involved in the issue .. Best described by the Swiss Cheese  model .. Lax Attitudes and the holes in the cheese start to line up till there is a straight through path and another outbreak ..
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2021, 09:26:20 AM »
Quote from: GeoffA on June 06, 2021, 08:42:34 AM
You've cherry-picked there, Pete.
Multi-culturalism on its' own isn't the issue.
It's the COMBINATION that's creating the issues for us.

 :cheers:
Sorry mate, wasn’t trying to argue, just thought that article was an interesting comparison of the demographics of the states. I know I was surprised with some of those numbers.

The other half of that combination is just a complete cluster f..... :(
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2021, 09:46:20 AM »
This is going to keep mutating, out breaks are going to happen. We can play the blame game, but what does that achieve?

It will be with us for a long time, until we build purpose facilities(and even then it will escape) to house ALL Travellers into this country, get use to outbreaks, We(humans) can't stay in one place, Humans spread it.
We have sports people, Politicians, business people, airlines are still flying in(goods, food, the Shite we buy from china & around the globe), just check out Flightradar24.
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Re: Once the situation returns to a somewhat acceptable way of life.
« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2021, 01:06:04 PM »
That's actually pretty quiet for Oz, compared to Ye Olde Normal Times!

But have a look at the place that everybody is apparently still going to in a few weeks time, for some God-unknown reason ??? ::), & the other place that must remain Nameless :-X, & which the rest of the World keeps making nasty accusations about ::) >:D

https://www.flightradar24.com/39.85,130.47/4
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