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The Trader => Showroom Floor => Topic started by: Helinox on May 18, 2015, 11:00:37 AM
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G'day MySwaggers,
Thought you might be interested in our range of lightweight camping gear.
Helinox equipment makes use of an advanced alloy – DAC TH72M – that was previously only used in the best lightweight expedition tents.
The result is gear that is super compact, very light and very strong.
Camp Chairs
[img width= height=]http://www.helinox.com.au/_bucket/Helinox-chairs-combo-640.jpg[/img]
From left to right:
Ground Chair – holds 120 kg, weighs 0.63 kg, packed length: 30 cm.
Chair One – holds 145 kg, weighs 0.89 kg, packed length: 35 cm.
Camp Chair – holds 145 kg, weighs 1.29 kg, packed length: 50 cm.
Sunset Chair – holds 145 kg, weighs 1.4 kg, packed length: 47 cm.
Given that the average camp chair weighs around 5 kg and is very bulky, switching to Helinox gear will save many kilograms and heaps of valuable space! A group of 5 using Helinox 'Camp Chair' will save over 18 kg just on chairs!
[img width= height=]http://www.helinox.com.au/_bucket/Helinox-camp-chair-handheld-500.jpg[/img]
Carry bag for Camp & Sunset chairs.
A lot of time has been spent making sure the chairs are also very comfortable. With the two larger chairs ('Camp' & 'Sunset') the seat fabric has been cut to provide good lower back support.
The carry bags can be attached to the frame during assembly for storage (or ballast in windy conditions as they are so light). For Sunset Chair we went a step further – stuff the carry bag with a rolled up towel and it attaches to the seat back for a neck pillow.
[img width= height=]http://www.helinox.com.au/_bucket/Helinox-camp-sunset-chairs-640.jpg[/img]
We also provide a range of other gear.
There's an Ultralight Table (just 0.66 kg) that's the perfect companion for Chair One.
[img width= height=]http://www.helinox.com.au/_bucket/Helinox-chair-one-table-640.jpg[/img]
Also 'Cot One', a very sturdy, lightweight camp stretcher. A unique lever-locking system provides excellent tension to the bed surface.
'Cot One' holds 150 kg, weighs less than 2 kg and packs down to 53 cm x 15 cm diameter. Compare that to your generic aluminium stretcher that only holds 100 kg, weighs 7.0 kg and is nearly a meter long when packed!
[img width= height=]http://www.helinox.com.au/_bucket/Helinox-cot-one-640.jpg[/img]
To keep prices down and the level of service & support up, we don't supply retailers. We sell direct via our website (www.helinox.com.au (http://www.helinox.com.au)) or phone 1800 925 525.
Now comes the important part. Our mission is to create raving fans of our gear, so if you don't love it send it back within 7 days for a full refund!
Cheers
Andrew
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Looks nice... :)
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just checked out your website, gear looks good but TBH the pricing scares me a little! $300 plus for a single stretcher & more than $170 for a chair.
In saying that if you wish to supply some gear for "testing" I will be more than happy to give an unbiased opinion on your products :angel:
swannie
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G'day Swannie,
The stretcher surface area is 190 x 67 cm and approx 16 cm off the ground.
Later this year we will introduce:
- 'Cot Max' (210 x 75 cm)
- 'High Cot' (190 x 67 cm, approx 38 cm high) with legs, allowing storage underneath.
- 'Lite Cot' (185 x 60 cm) just 1.3 kg (best for kids & slim builds).
Cheers
Andrew
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G'day Swannie,
The stretcher surface area is 190 x 67 cm and approx 16 cm off the ground.
Later this year we will introduce:
- 'Cot Max' (210 x 75 cm)
- 'High Cot' (190 x 67 cm, approx 38 cm high) with legs, allowing storage underneath.
- 'Lite Cot' (185 x 60 cm) just 1.3 kg (best for kids & slim builds).
Cheers
Andrew
Thanks for your reply
swannie
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Looks the goods, nice and compact to strap on the back of the adventure bike
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Looks the goods, nice and compact to strap on the back of the adventure bike
Yes the gear has been very popular with adventure bikers, sea kayakers, pilots, bushwalkers, horse riders... a lot of situations where carrying a chair simply wasn't an option previously.
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just checked out your website, gear looks good but TBH the pricing scares me a little! $300 plus for a single stretcher & more than $170 for a chair.
In saying that if you wish to supply some gear for "testing" I will be more than happy to give an unbiased opinion on your products :angel:
swannie
Thanks for the offer swannie! ;D
We're trying to keep the prices down but the reality is that the alloy is expensive to manufacture. But you can't get the performance advantages in terms of strength for weight with any other material.
Over time, the weight and space saved, along with the quality of the gear does tend to pay for itself.
Cheers
Andrew
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look good. i like the idea of light and compact, but comfort must come in also, if you dont supply retailers, where can one sit in a chair or lay on a stretcher before buying?
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Good point old mate especially if you are dropping 150 on one chair. They look great, very compact, but to be honest, too expensive for my liking. I get the whole compact and weight benefits, but to kit everyone out in my family would cost 600 for 4 chairs. Thanks for the info, and good luck with your sales
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look good. i like the idea of light and compact, but comfort must come in also, if you dont supply retailers, where can one sit in a chair or lay on a stretcher before buying?
Hi oldmate,
I know it's nice to be able to try out a product at a local retailer. The reality is that our prices would nearly double if we went via the normal wholesale/retail supply chain. So we offer our 7 day return policy. If you don't love the product, send it back for a full refund.
Also, there are a bunch of video reviews available that help show the gear in action:
Chair One & Table: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H2vCpxJRv0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H2vCpxJRv0) (Mark from Biker Bits)
Cot One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3tQids996Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3tQids996Q) (Mark from Biker Bits)
Camp Chair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkJ-t1R_Zrw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkJ-t1R_Zrw) (from USA distributor)
Cheers
Andrew
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If you don't love the product, send it back for a full refund.
A
Cheers
Andrew
Cheers Andrew. and you cover postage/freight in that refund?
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Keeping you in mind for when I finally find a new job.
Too much big/bulky stuff in the camper and I need to reorganise with more sensible equipment.
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Cheers Andrew. and you cover postage/freight in that refund?
No sorry, you'll have to pay for the return post. Think of it as a trip to visit a retailer and back. :D
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thanks for posting, I've thought of importing one (chair one) and your pricing is good. I'll be grabbing one when a I get some overtime and money for toys! thanks for posting.
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No sorry, you'll have to pay for the return post. Think of it as a trip to visit a retailer and back. :D
Yeah cheers, so I notice your in Harvey bay, can people local come and test run and pick up? Save on postage?
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I can vouch for these chairs they are awesome , perfect for fishing along rivers or strapping to the back of the bike , I have one in the car and one on the bike with matching table and about to get a third for the camper .
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I bought myself a birthday present in January - the Chair One.
I take it kayak camping.
I can vouch for the comfort factor.
Love it!
I'd like to get the bigger chair next.....one day!
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Plenty of the better camp chairs at BCF etc are over $100 so I don't think these are too ridiculously priced for what they are.
Great for hiking/biking.
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Went for a trip with a few adventure bike riders and all had chair ones - and all raved about them.
I found the one I tried to be quite comfortable, but didn't get to stay in it long as was kicked out pronto by it's owner taking posession back
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One of the blokes in the club had one of the chairs on a club trip recently, and they are VERY comfortable. ... and LIGHT! 8)
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Looks like awesome stuff.
Light weight is the future.
There are heaps of overweight vehicles out touring that need to go on a diet and your type of product will only get more popular.
Coming from a hiking background your prices are very reasonable. It cost money to make products that light. All the best with it.
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Any current thoughts on the helinox? thinking to save space in the car!
How are they for sitting at a table eating?
TIA :)
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Hi Andrew
Any ideas on when the sunset chairs will be back in stock.
I put in an order the other day based on good reviews.
Cheers
Simo
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Wheres the drink holder? ;D
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Any current thoughts on the helinox? thinking to save space in the car!
How are they for sitting at a table eating?
TIA :)
I've had two of the Sunset chair for about 3 years and love them. Changing from traditional camp chairs to Helinox saved us a stack of space. They are so compact I leave them in the back of the car permanently. The chairs are very high quality and I find them comfortable. The only downside, apart from the cost, is that because they are so light, they blow over in the wind.
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I've had two of the Sunset chair for about 3 years and love them. Changing from traditional camp chairs to Helinox saved us a stack of space. They are so compact I leave them in the back of the car permanently. The chairs are very high quality and I find them comfortable. The only downside, apart from the cost, is that because they are so light, they blow over in the wind.
Thanks leachy :) Do you use this chair to eat at the table? How do you find it for that?
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@smiles - Fingers crossed we will start sending out backorders next Monday & Tuesday. Apologies for the delay, the last shipment from the factory was delayed at sea.
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Thanks leachy :) Do you use this chair to eat at the table? How do you find it for that?
We have these. They are in constant regular use for camping and attending kids sport each weekend. I really love the size and weight. They are still like new even though they live in the car boot and subject to a fair bit of mistreatment by the kids. As mentioned by others the space and weight saving is considerable when you are a family with three or four kids. We also use the cots for kids aged 16-9 from 90kg to 35 kg. Once again size and weight are great. The kids ditched their self inflating mattresses as they decided they weren’t necessary with the cots.
I would think that the chair to table height would be the most important issue. We ate around our camp table fine. YMMV.
Cheers
Shane
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Thanks for this information on your products...
Currently looking into lightweight gear as we want to do some overnighters on the Grand Sandy Walk - FI...
I have found websites that conglomerate lightweight products onto one site...
So far - the lightest has been:
Back pack
Tent
2 x Lanterns
Mattress
s/bag
Wearing clothes
Spare clothes/coats and raincoats etc/walking sticks...
2 x water bottles (empty)
Srove burner
Cook set/plates etc
Sub 7kgs ..
approx $600-$700 I think? - per pax..
So will definitely consider your products in that mix.
thx
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Does anyone who has one miss having arm rests or find the extra set up time annoying.
For things like cycling or hiking they would be perfect but just wondering what people think of the trade off vs a normal camping chair when you are only really physically carrying it a few metres and you generally have a fair bit of space in a car/camper to fit chairs in.
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Does anyone who has one miss having arm rests or find the extra set up time annoying.
For things like cycling or hiking they would be perfect but just wondering what people think of the trade off vs a normal camping chair when you are only really physically carrying it a few metres and you generally have a fair bit of space in a car/camper to fit chairs in.
If you have tons of space and carrying capacity in your vehicle camper, then there are probably more comfortable chairs to consider. I would say because it is light and easy, it is used all the time rather than me thinking that I am not carrying a couple of chairs all that way (think beach, fishing, sports fields etc etc, anywhere where it is more than a few metres away).
Most people with more than two people in the vehicle/camper become very quickly subject to space and weight considerations. We had normal camping chairs and cots but with up to four kids , we couldn't make it work as the volume was simply too great, especially for trips like the Cape, Simpson Desert etc where we need to take a lot of food and water as well.
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Does anyone who has one miss having arm rests or find the extra set up time annoying.
For things like cycling or hiking they would be perfect but just wondering what people think of the trade off vs a normal camping chair when you are only really physically carrying it a few metres and you generally have a fair bit of space in a car/camper to fit chairs in.
Don't really miss the arm rest, we have two of the larger chairs and the kids have the smaller ones. As others have noted the space saving is amazing especially when you change over 4 chairs. Our front box went from "jump on the lid to close it" to half full.
Set up and pack up time is not much extra, the kids chores on set up and pack up is to get the chairs out and packed up.
The one thing i miss is a drink holder but I am going to see if I can come up with a fix for that over the winter in calibration with Sarah
GG
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Thanks for the replies, with 4 kids, 6 chairs do take up a bit of space, I guess the question is do you then just end up taking more other stuff though. The weight saving at maybe 15kg (for a family) is likely only going to be a fraction of a percent of the overall car+camper weight so I don't think for me that would be a massive consideration for me, but space in the car, especially when doing day trips would be a bigger factor and make taking them a lot easier.
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I’m about to purchase Helinox......I have the cheap aldi ones ago but they failed on the second trip....
Convinced us that there is a massive space and weigh saving compared to the cost.
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Thanks leachy :) Do you use this chair to eat at the table? How do you find it for that?
No we don't use them to eat at table, just plates on laps. But we did the same when we had conventional chairs.
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A shout out of thanks to Helinox. Was away over the xmas break and we had a failure on one of the aluminium poles, a quick email and we sent it off for a repair under warranty. Got it back yesterday and like new again, the warranty was looked after without a problem.
GG