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Title: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 03, 2020, 10:28:38 AM
Supercars 2021 Calendar

February 26-28: Mount Panorama 500, Bathurst, NSW

March 18-21: Melbourne, Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix, VIC

April 10-11: Tasmania SuperSprint, Symmons Plains, TAS

May 8-9:             OTR SuperSprint, Tailem Bend, SA

May 29-30:         Winton SuperSprint, Winton, VIC

June 19-20:        Darwin Triple Crown, Hidden Valley, NT

July 9-11:            NTI Townsville, Reid Park, QLD

Aug 20-22:         Sydney SuperNight, Sydney Motorsport Park, NSW

Sept 11-12:        Perth SuperNight, Wanneroo Raceway, WA

Oct 7-10:            Repco Bathurst 1000, Mount Panorama, NSW

Nov 6-7:              ITM Auckland SuperSprint, NZ

Dec 3-5:              Gold Coast Street Circuit, Surfers Paradise, QLD
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2020, 12:12:15 PM
Bathurst twice?
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: GeoffA on December 03, 2020, 12:17:19 PM
Bathurst twice?

1.5
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: gronk on December 03, 2020, 06:26:42 PM
Bathurst twice?

Nah, Bathurst should be a stand alone , once a year race.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on December 03, 2020, 07:19:35 PM
1st round at Bathurst will be a weekend sprint race format, not an enduro
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 03, 2020, 08:14:11 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/mt-panorama-500-to-open-2021-season/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/mt-panorama-500-to-open-2021-season/)

The 500km three-day event from 26-28 February will add a new element to the history of Mount Panorama and will see new faces battling it out to become the inaugural race winner in 2021.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: DannyG on December 03, 2020, 09:14:50 PM
What a great way to start the year.

Theres plenty to look forward to seeing in the driver shuffles this year and one or two to play out yet.

However, what I am really looking forward to is the next gen cars coming out in 2022 and seeing what they do there, hopefully they get it right this time.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 03, 2020, 09:30:52 PM
What a great way to start the year.

Theres plenty to look forward to seeing in the driver shuffles this year and one or two to play out yet.

However, what I am really looking forward to is the next gen cars coming out in 2022 and seeing what they do there, hopefully they get it right this time.

Yep it is pretty average that Supercar Car of the Future is that far behind the times current vehicles can't fit into the chassis.   Would have been interesting to see the Camaro's running around this year, now we have to wait two more years.   That's how you keep your fans.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on December 04, 2020, 07:10:34 AM
Nah, Bathurst should be a stand alone , once a year race.

And the traditional 1000k endurance race will be just that.

The first weekend at Bathurst is to fill the void left from the 12 hour (killed by covid)- https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/10/19/bathurst-12-hour-called-off-for-2021/ (https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/10/19/bathurst-12-hour-called-off-for-2021/).
I suspect the first event will be 500k over 3 sprint races of about 25 laps each (like the Gold Coast 600 is). Eventually supercars will have a sprint round in the calendar at Bathurst, but on the new circuit being built on the other side of the hill.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: doc evil on December 04, 2020, 07:40:34 AM
No Sandown………...
No Phillip Island...………

What a FN joke. 2 tracks that bring in the biggest crowds bar the proper Bathurst (a sprint round WTF are they thinking!!) and the AGP (which used to be a non points round).

Aimed purely at the couch potato that pay to watch...………...no free to air.

Lost me (well, they lost me years ago when you had to pay to watch and the bullShit rules).
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Kangaron on December 04, 2020, 07:55:48 AM
No Sandown………...
No Phillip Island...………

What a FN joke.

Agreed, very disappointing.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2020, 09:09:22 AM
Quote from: doc evil
Aimed purely at the couch potato that pay to watch...………...no free to air.
This sadly is how all sport is going.
They make so many sports (footy, cricket, etc) that good to watch on tele, why would you bother going. 3000 camera angles, replays, the only let down with most is rambling commentators but you can decipher whats going on...
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: gronk on December 04, 2020, 01:31:22 PM
And the traditional 1000k endurance race will be just that.

The first weekend at Bathurst is to fill the void left from the 12 hour (killed by covid)- . Eventually supercars will have a sprint round in the calendar at Bathurst, but on the new circuit being built on the other side of the hill.

The Bathurst 1000 is a sprint race.....no such thing as an endurance race anymore !
The 2nd best race track in Australia ( Phillip Island ) misses out ?
I'll be dead by the time they build another track at Bathurst !!
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2020, 01:55:16 PM
This sadly is how all sport is going.
They make so many sports (footy, cricket, etc) that good to watch on tele, why would you bother going. 3000 camera angles, replays, the only let down with most is rambling commentators but you can decipher whats going on...

Drag racing has suffered a similar fate.

Too much money, trying to streamline the show, run 'em through as fast as ya can.
8 car fields when they could run 16 car fields.

Funny thing is, the Drag Challenge style of laid back racing, seems to be hitting a nerve.
All of a sudden, you have XW Falcons, HQ Monaros, Commodore wagons and host of other stuff, running in the 7 second zone.
Tons of cars running 8's, 9's are a doodle and 10 second cars, whilst still fast, are the 12 and 13 second cars form the 90's.

Very few new race cars being built now, to get one day of fun, 10 times a year.
Lots of tough streeters coming on, racing 4 or 5 times a year, and for many, still doing 5 or 10,000klm in the year as well.

I have no idea, why the general public can see it like a big ol pus filled boil on ya arse.
The powers to be...... can't see past their nose.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2020, 02:06:41 PM
Drag racing has suffered a similar fate.

Too much money, trying to streamline the show, run 'em through as fast as ya can.
8 car fields when they could run 16 car fields.

Funny thing is, the Drag Challenge style of laid back racing, seems to be hitting a nerve.
All of a sudden, you have XW Falcons, HQ Monaros, Commodore wagons and host of other stuff, running in the 7 second zone.
Tons of cars running 8's, 9's are a doodle and 10 second cars, whilst still fast, are the 12 and 13 second cars form the 90's.

Very few new race cars being built now, to get one day of fun, 10 times a year.
Lots of tough streeters coming on, racing 4 or 5 times a year, and for many, still doing 5 or 10,000klm in the year as well.

I have no idea, why the general public can see it like a big ol pus filled boil on ya arse.
The powers to be...... can't see past their nose.
remember a few nights out at castlereigh drags... cant believe how far back that closed!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlereagh_International_Dragway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlereagh_International_Dragway)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2020, 02:13:55 PM
From memory, I think Willowbank opened the following year in 85.

I still remember racing at Surfers Paradise International Raceway. (late 70's)

Its a canal estate, should be anal estate, these days.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2020, 02:18:31 PM
From memory, I think Willowbank opened the following year in 85.

I still remember racing at Surfers Paradise International Raceway. (late 70's)

www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/surfers-paradise-dragstrip.html (http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/surfers-paradise-dragstrip.html)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on December 16, 2020, 12:31:57 PM
So what the hell is going on with the commentary team for next year????

4 days ago they announced that Mark Larkham wont be back - https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/larkham-confirms-departure-from-supercars-broadcast-team/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/larkham-confirms-departure-from-supercars-broadcast-team/) which is a real shame. Interesting comment made by SpeedCafe was
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" It is believed that part of the reasoning for Larkham’s axing was that Supercars management wanted to ‘dumb down’ the telecast and make it less technical moving forward"
, which seems a confusing move from supercars as he did a great job of explaining technical crap to to the average viewer? Realy hope that doesnt translate to the noddy doll getting more air time  ::)

And then there was this report "The position of lead commentator Neil Crompton is also understood to be under review". Looks like the fans are blowing up https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/supercars-mark-larkham-blown-away-by-reaction-to-axing-from-tv-broadcast/598984bd-6596-4f2d-b536-defefcd939cd (https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/supercars-mark-larkham-blown-away-by-reaction-to-axing-from-tv-broadcast/598984bd-6596-4f2d-b536-defefcd939cd) and now it looks like a slim chance of a backflip? https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/12/15/supercars-set-for-mark-larkham-backflip/ (https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/12/15/supercars-set-for-mark-larkham-backflip/)

Talk about the "silly" season  ::)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on December 16, 2020, 12:34:49 PM
And now there is a rumour that Mark Barretta from the sunrise morning show will become the face of the supercars telecast............ what-tha???????
I guess thats well in line with their plan to dumb down the telecast  ???

here's a link for any fans that want to speak up - http://chng.it/DdbGP4VHLm (http://chng.it/DdbGP4VHLm)

And apparently noddy doll is also unemployed - https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/crehan-overwhelmed-reaction-tv-exit/4923850/ (https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/crehan-overwhelmed-reaction-tv-exit/4923850/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on December 16, 2020, 01:15:37 PM
wow... just, wow

a kids show host from Hi 5  ::)
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AUTO ACTION understands that Robinson is being brought on board to appeal to a younger, wider audience.
https://autoaction.com.au/2020/10/31/kids-show-star-for-supercars-tv (https://autoaction.com.au/2020/10/31/kids-show-star-for-supercars-tv)

I recon the'll succeed in their goal to dumb down the coverage ::) :o ::)

With Mark Barretta possibly being joined by Abbey Way (channel 7 presenter from House Rules)

Spose it doesn't help that Chanel 7 boss is ex supercars boss James Warburton, which explains all the cahnnel 7 celebs getting the key gig's

From the Auto Action article -
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Jess Yates will become the host of all broadcasts, backed by Mark Skaife and Craig Lowndes.
They are secure because they are retained by Fox Sports, which has demanded Skaife continue against some resistance within Supercars.
Seven celebrity Mark Beretta, a motorsport fan, will be part of the cross-network team, most likely reporting from the pit lane.
The full commentary line-up is still being debated.
Supercars executives are pushing for a less technical call, with Neil Crompton and Mark Larkham under threat.
Crompton is ‘The Voice Of V8s’, backed by more than three decades as a commentator with top-level racing experience, while fellow ex-racer Larko is popular for his amusing and informative analysis.
According to our broadcast industry sources, neither has a confirmed deal for next year and beyond.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2020, 01:36:09 PM
wow... just, wow

a kids show host from Hi 5  ::)https://autoaction.com.au/2020/10/31/kids-show-star-for-supercars-tv (https://autoaction.com.au/2020/10/31/kids-show-star-for-supercars-tv)
shoulda gone Kellie in this safety suit...
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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 16, 2020, 04:43:08 PM
bit of a double standards, if they can't have grid girls, how can they have female commentators?
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: kylarama on December 16, 2020, 07:00:36 PM
Dark clouds over Erebus.
Anton gone.
Lead engineers for both cars gone.

Now Reynolds exit confirmed. One year into a 10 year contract.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/12/16/erebus-motorsport-confirms-departure-of-reynolds/


Strong mail is Penrite are following Davey to Kelly Bro's.

Might be time for the vocal team manager to tone it down a little.

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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: DannyG on December 17, 2020, 08:35:16 AM
Dark clouds over Erebus.
Anton gone.
Lead engineers for both cars gone.

Now Reynolds exit confirmed. One year into a 10 year contract.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/12/16/erebus-motorsport-confirms-departure-of-reynolds/


Strong mail is Penrite are following Davey to Kelly Bro's.

Might be time for the vocal team manager to tone it down a little.

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Probably a little too late to tone it down. But the good thing about being humans is we have the ability to evaluate ourselves and make changes, I am sure he has had to do exactly that. Although he maybe the type of person that doesn't have this in him. Betty backs him all the way apparently. She may not be a lot better?

Dave may live to regret his decision though. If things don't work out in a year or two with his new team (kellys?) then he will be almost certainly looking for employment and will look back and think Betty gave him virtually a golden road for the rest of his life in terms of needing money.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: kylarama on December 17, 2020, 09:48:39 AM
You'd hope he hasn't taken the desicion lightly, but if the rumours are true about his wife being no longer welcome in the pit garage.
Money aside his next 9 years of work and home life would difficult.

Given Penrite are apparently backing the move, probably gives him confidence.

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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on December 17, 2020, 11:09:40 AM
You'd hope he hasn't taken the desicion lightly, but if the rumours are true about his wife being no longer welcome in the pit garage.
Money aside his next 9 years of work and home life would difficult.

Given Penrite are apparently backing the move, probably gives him confidence.

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That rumour would not surprise me at all, I have seen first hand how Betty communicates and interacts with her major sponsors, I have met her personally and she doesn’t impress, after dealing with Ross and Jimmy Stone foe a number of years before she entered the game, it was chalk and cheese.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: doc evil on January 11, 2021, 04:59:15 PM
Nail in the coffin...….

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/tender-discusses-push-to-pass-trial-paddle-shift/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/tender-discusses-push-to-pass-trial-paddle-shift/)

Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on January 11, 2021, 08:56:11 PM
Nail in the coffin...….

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/tender-discusses-push-to-pass-trial-paddle-shift/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/tender-discusses-push-to-pass-trial-paddle-shift/)
This made me laugh...
Push-to-pass technology provides drivers with the ability to increase the car's power for short periods of time.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on January 11, 2021, 09:57:51 PM
just take aero off the vehicles and passing tracks, scrap most of the driving rules and bring on the action, let the best driver win. 
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: DannyG on January 12, 2021, 09:10:23 AM
I agree, less aero, less rules...nascar style. Someone punts you off just keep it in the memory bank. Let them sort it out on track.

Paddle shift is fine if that's what makes them happy but Push to pass Im not a fan of in any form of motorsport.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Kangaron on January 12, 2021, 10:48:50 AM
I presume push to pass is similar to drag reduction in F1 ?

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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: GeoffA on January 12, 2021, 10:50:56 AM
Just run slot cars.....
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on January 12, 2021, 02:01:17 PM
Quote from: DannyG
Paddle shift is fine
IM not sure why people are complaining about this one really.. ???
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 12, 2021, 02:31:34 PM
I wonder if they would let an ol 59 Zephyr do some laps?

May not be great in the corners compared to those guys, but it might look cool in the straight bits.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: doc evil on January 12, 2021, 03:39:49 PM
I wonder if they would let an ol 59 Zephyr do some laps?

May not be great in the corners compared to those guys, but it might look cool in the straight bits.

They do...………..it's called hysterics………..errr....................historic race meets.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: duggie on January 12, 2021, 06:26:44 PM
The Australian Grand Prix has been postponed until later in 2021, which means we are going racing at Sandown in March!
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: DannyG on January 13, 2021, 07:47:08 AM
The Australian Grand Prix has been postponed until later in 2021, which means we are going racing at Sandown in March!

They should have never removed Sandown from the calendar.

We are a funny bunch in Australia, we like our motor racing history and having sundown as an enduro event should be the build up to bathurst.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: S.W on January 13, 2021, 03:43:24 PM
They should have never removed Sandown from the calendar.

We are a funny bunch in Australia, we like our motor racing history and having sundown as an enduro event should be the build up to bathurst.

Totally agree Danny. Nor should they have removed Phillip Island from the calendar, which behind Bathurst would be second on most driver's list of top tracks in the country. But, unfortunately, money talks.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on February 11, 2021, 04:41:30 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/legend-bowe-diagnosed-with-prostate-cancer/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/legend-bowe-diagnosed-with-prostate-cancer/)

Hope this triggers a few blokes to get tested, they dont have to stick a finger in ya jaxy anymore if that bothers ya.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Marcus73 on February 11, 2021, 05:09:18 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/legend-bowe-diagnosed-with-prostate-cancer/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/legend-bowe-diagnosed-with-prostate-cancer/)

Hope this triggers a few blokes to get tested, they dont have to stick a finger in ya jaxy anymore if that bothers ya.
But can you ask for the old way though?
Asking for a friend


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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: plusnq on February 11, 2021, 05:31:22 PM
But can you ask for the old way though?
Asking for a friend


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 ;D ;D :cup: :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on February 11, 2021, 05:57:41 PM
Quote from: Marcus73
But can you ask for the old way though?
Asking for a friend

NSFW - Old school :D

https://youtu.be/MN6mqioeKjo?t=90 (https://youtu.be/MN6mqioeKjo?t=90)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on February 27, 2021, 08:45:54 AM
Good to see Larko back in the pits  8)

Obviously 7 & Fox took notice of the fan reaction.

Interesting that the 2 DJR cars are midfield in yesterdays practice?  Not sure who I'll be backing this year, it's been a wild mix up with the driver and team changes over the off season. I recon Gizzy and Waters will both be strong contenders this year, but I think I'll keep an eye on some of the young guns that are poking their way into more competitive cars/teams this season. Brodie Kostecki shows early form and Will Brown was doing well, right up until he clouted the wall? I'd like to see De Pasquale have a good season (and Reynolds have a crap one >:D)

edit, just caught qualifying and De Pasquale has provisional pole in the DJR car..... so ignore what I said about the DJR midfield results  :-[
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on February 27, 2021, 11:20:49 AM
Great coverage,NOT, WTF is going on with the timing, nothing on the shootout and no times on the totem pole. ???
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: rags on February 27, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
Great coverage,NOT, WTF is going on with the timing, nothing on the shootout and no times on the totem pole. ???

Great coverage at my place, with FOX
Timetable
 https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/2021-supercars-mount-panorama-500-session-times-preview/5483759/ (https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/2021-supercars-mount-panorama-500-session-times-preview/5483759/)
Title: Supercars 2021
Post by: tagman on February 27, 2021, 05:07:07 PM
Great being at the track - camping up top.
There is a few problems with the merch but
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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: grc on February 27, 2021, 05:43:26 PM
Was at the track on friday not that many people up there good to see a good turn out today

 and tomorrow bring it on i say


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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: rags on February 27, 2021, 05:56:07 PM
Great being at the track - camping up top.
There is a few problems with the merch but
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Collector item,
Did it come with washing instructions “wish in worm water”
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on February 27, 2021, 06:22:23 PM
Great coverage at my place, with FOX
Timetable
 https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/2021-supercars-mount-panorama-500-session-times-preview/5483759/ (https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/2021-supercars-mount-panorama-500-session-times-preview/5483759/)

Yeah, they sorted it eventually, I’m on Fox as well. Feeling bad for Slade.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pete79 on February 27, 2021, 06:57:30 PM
Great being at the track - camping up top.
There is a few problems with the merch but
Haha... Obviously had a Ford supporter in charge of the T-shirts this year.... ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: archer63 on February 27, 2021, 07:00:25 PM
I’m following DePasquali and Heimgartner...I look forward to seeing them progress throughout the year... if they can minimise silly mistakes I’ll be happy 👹
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on February 28, 2021, 07:56:54 AM
Great coverage, NOT, WTF is going on with the timing, nothing on the shootout and no times on the totem pole. ???

Lets hope it's just teething issues with the new graphics? Fox wasn't any better, Missed about 5 laps of racing at the start because they were showing replays of non-important events that happened on the 1st lap, spent half the race wondering what lap they were on cause the lap counter graphic was only intermittently on, they no longer show which cars had pitted or not so it was hard to work out the true position from the totem.

Maybe Ch7 in it's efforts to "dumb down" the technical component of the sport to attract a new wider audience doesn't think fans want to know the relevant info about the race....... like what lap there on and who's leading?
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: gronk on February 28, 2021, 08:09:06 AM
I missed the race yesterday, so was watching the replay this morning on Kayo.....gets 1/2 way thru then screen goes black then reverts to this morning "live" coverage   wtf   ??
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on March 20, 2021, 06:28:15 PM
Like him or not, awesome drive today from SVG   17th to first for 3 from 3.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/17th-to-victory-svg-completes-extraordinary-comeback/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/17th-to-victory-svg-completes-extraordinary-comeback/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: duggie on March 20, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
Like him or not, awesome drive today from SVG   17th to first for 3 from 3.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/17th-to-victory-svg-completes-extraordinary-comeback/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/17th-to-victory-svg-completes-extraordinary-comeback/)

Yep , don't care what camp ya from , ya gotta respect the man . 2 week old broken collar bone , 36 laps ( plus practice and quallifing laps ) 17th to 1st .
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on March 20, 2021, 07:17:04 PM
Can only hope tomorrow’s racing will be as good as today’s.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on March 22, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
SVG 5 from 5, wet and dry.   Needs to break his collar bone more often.    He definitely likes the wet and so does young Brodie by the looks.   
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: DannyG on March 23, 2021, 11:35:04 AM
Yep , don't care what camp ya from , ya gotta respect the man . 2 week old broken collar bone , 36 laps ( plus practice and quallifing laps ) 17th to 1st .

Couldn't agree more. I liked him more when he was driving for us of course, but what a bloody drive.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on March 30, 2021, 12:01:16 PM
the beginning of the end for Sandown? 7500 new houses on the 110ha site -  7499 new whingers, it took less than that to close Amaroo and many other tracks.


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Dandenong Council is warning that Melbourne Racing Club’s plan to end horse racing at Sandown and redevelop the sprawling racetrack into a new suburb the size of Wangaratta may create traffic congestion and cram in too much housing.

The racing club wants to rezone the 112-hectare site in Melbourne’s south-east from “special use” to housing so it can sell the land for a far higher price. The money would then be poured back into its $300 million redevelopment of Caulfield racecourse.

There has been a racing track on the land since 1888 and it has been both a horse racetrack and motor raceway in its current form since the 1960s. The grandstand at the racetrack, built in 1962 for the motor racing circuit, was heritage listed in 2019.

The racing club approached the council about rezoning the land more than two years ago. The MRC has now drafted a formal rezoning plan and will brief Dandenong’s 11 councillors on it on April 16.

The plan proposes 7500 new homes being built on the sprawling site, divided by the small Mile Creek, which takes up about 10 per cent of the land to be developed, while about 10 per cent of the land would be set aside for parkland.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/racing/it-s-extreme-plan-to-transform-sandown-racetrack-into-suburb-meets-resistance-20210316-p57b2p.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/racing/it-s-extreme-plan-to-transform-sandown-racetrack-into-suburb-meets-resistance-20210316-p57b2p.html)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: edz on March 30, 2021, 02:16:22 PM
Another Iconic race track headed for extinction ..   Just like Surfers Paradise Raceway . Or it will end up as a highly restricted  venue for the odd corporate / driver training sessions like Lakeside Raceway .
Guess the old saying of "If you build it, they will come "  rings true in the worst way .
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: #jonesy on March 30, 2021, 03:50:44 PM
It will easily get planning approval for rezoning.  A stones throw from Springvale Train Station and Eastlink Freeway.

It is likely too expensive to keep for the small number of events per year vs what they can do with the $$$ to improve the other racecourses.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on March 30, 2021, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: edz
Or it will end up as a highly restricted  venue
that would be the best you can hope for, but 112ha in suburbia where theres not a vacant block - think how many billion 2ft sq townhouse/units slums they will cram in  there... its a developers wettest dream.

.. and sadly to its own detriment as Jonesy says close to freeway/public transport etc? few back handers cash in brown bags and it will be rezoned
I hope it lasts, but is it more of a deferring the inevitable?

Surprised its lasted this long. Same as Calder Park or Caulfield horse racing, that land would be worth kagillions where its located...
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 01, 2021, 05:38:16 AM
Not always easy to make a racetrack turn a profit these days.

Insurances are through the roof..... etc etc.

Then someone says, you could turn that into x number of housing blocks and you can retire.

Unless you a very wealthy and that's no guarantee either , most will sell up like a shot.
Very similar to farming land..... bust ya arse from sun up to sunset.
Great grandad, then grandad, then dad, then the son says whoa, hang on a minute.
Bust my arse all day or sell for 10 million and retire.

I hate seeing racetracks close..... but you'll never stop it.
What was once out in the boonies is now Res A
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: DannyG on April 01, 2021, 08:09:11 AM
Itll never happen to Symons in Tassie. Itll be decades if not centuries before houses creep out that far!!

Not unless some chinese or other overseas investors offer silly money for the farm that the track sits on  :-[
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Fizzie on May 10, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
& for the latest proposed revision of Supercars! ...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-10/lawnmower-racing-a-hit-with-motorsport-fans-affordable-sport/100120810 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-10/lawnmower-racing-a-hit-with-motorsport-fans-affordable-sport/100120810)

 >:D ;D

Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Gazza00 on May 10, 2021, 02:46:25 PM
https://images.cdn.circlesix.co/image/2/1200/630/5/uploads/posts/2016/03/6e7ae3f15b371430100dd192d8970ec1.jpg (https://images.cdn.circlesix.co/image/2/1200/630/5/uploads/posts/2016/03/6e7ae3f15b371430100dd192d8970ec1.jpg)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on May 10, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: DannyG
Itll never happen to Symons in Tassie. Itll be decades if not centuries before houses creep out that far!!
They said that about Amaroo and Oran Parks... :(
have a look at how many 4-700k (guessing) houses are at Oran now. https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0046371,150.7324783,2573m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0046371,150.7324783,2573m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)
Most of Amaroo is still empty land - http://aerialf1.com/oceania/australia/amaroo/ (http://aerialf1.com/oceania/australia/amaroo/)

The killer is 'lets build houses for those race fans that wanna live close by' 5yrs later the house gets sold to someone who hates noise
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Fizzie on May 11, 2021, 06:58:33 AM
5yrs later the house gets sold to someone who hates noise

But buys a house & moves in next door to a race track / motocross track / fire station / airport / shooting range ... ::) :'( >:(
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: paul.o on May 11, 2021, 08:56:01 AM
And whinges until someone else's sport/passion/way of life/livelyhood gets shut down....
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: gronk on May 11, 2021, 11:55:18 AM
And whinges until someone else's sport/passion/way of life/livelyhood gets shut down....

Same as the people who buy a house under the flight path of an airport ??
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on May 11, 2021, 09:52:17 PM
Neil Crompton :( Cancer

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/neil-crompton-supercars-icon-diagnosed-prostate-cancer-025609352.html (https://au.sports.yahoo.com/neil-crompton-supercars-icon-diagnosed-prostate-cancer-025609352.html)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Foo on May 12, 2021, 06:36:12 AM
Neil Crompton :( Cancer

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/neil-crompton-supercars-icon-diagnosed-prostate-cancer-025609352.html (https://au.sports.yahoo.com/neil-crompton-supercars-icon-diagnosed-prostate-cancer-025609352.html)

Nobody is immune from this hideous disease.  >:( A shame that it can't be past onto the mongrel element of society instead of good people.  ;)

Foo

Foo
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: gronk on May 12, 2021, 08:31:32 AM
Nobody is immune from this hideous disease.  >:( A shame that it can't be past onto the mongrel element of society instead of good people.  ;)

Foo

Foo

Very treatable though. But I don’t know any cancer that is good !!
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on June 20, 2021, 01:19:57 PM
some good clean side by side racing today
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Hairs on June 20, 2021, 01:22:27 PM
some good clean side by side racing today
Yep,
Just watched that one.
It was good.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Foo on June 20, 2021, 04:02:52 PM
Troy Herfoss had a big off in the Superbikes but I'm impressed with Oli Bayliss and he win in the last race. At 17yrs old, he has a huge future ahead of him I think.  :cup:

Foo
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on June 20, 2021, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: Foo
...with Oli Bayliss and he win in the last race. At 17yrs old, he has a huge future ahead of him I think.  :cup:

dont reckon dads contacts would get him bits others dont have access to :) ;)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Foo on June 20, 2021, 04:58:32 PM
dont reckon dads contacts would get him bits others dont have access to :) ;)

He's on a Factory bike.  ;D

Foo
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: bmwfreak on July 08, 2021, 07:10:25 AM
Found something different to todays racing in a Facebook group I belong to, three different manufacturers and three different styles of cars. Hopefully will allow me to share on here.
https://fb.watch/v/3R_EbUKRD/ (https://fb.watch/v/3R_EbUKRD/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 08, 2021, 07:14:53 AM
I was reading, Rachelle Splatt, (bad name for a drag racer) will be doing a Top Fuel demo with the dragster at the Townsville meeting.

It won't go even close to hooking up, but will be a great thing for folks who have never experienced a Top Fuel car before.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: NZMarkb on July 08, 2021, 07:22:53 AM
Found something different to todays racing in a Facebook group I belong to, three different manufacturers and three different styles of cars. Hopefully will allow me to share on here.



Imagine that
all different displacement, aero packages and weights
How the hell did they make that great racing




Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: gronk on July 08, 2021, 08:54:16 AM
I was reading, Rachelle Splatt, (bad name for a drag racer) will be doing a Top Fuel demo with the dragster at the Townsville meeting.

It won't go even close to hooking up, but will be a great thing for folks who have never experienced a Top Fuel car before.

I saw a bit somewhere on the web about her going to Townsville……I presumed they had a drag strip at Townsville.
Well, she won’t need to do a “run”……just light them up for as long as she can so the petrol heads can enjoy the sound.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on July 08, 2021, 11:33:43 AM
Double header announced for Townsville, this weekend will be 2 x 250k races, next weekend will be 3 x sprint races.
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/supercars-confirms-2021-townsville-doubleheader/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/supercars-confirms-2021-townsville-doubleheader/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on October 17, 2021, 09:59:29 AM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/motorsport-identity-garry-dumbrell-passes-away/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/motorsport-identity-garry-dumbrell-passes-away/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Foo on October 17, 2021, 12:47:07 PM
Still only a young man but forking cancer takes no prisoners when it gets into you.  :'(

Foo
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Brij on October 17, 2021, 02:34:01 PM
Still only a young man but forking cancer takes no prisoners when it gets into you.  :'(

Foo

From the article he beat cancer but had a tragic accident at home.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on October 30, 2021, 06:42:58 PM
good to see they are racing again
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on October 30, 2021, 06:56:38 PM
Looks great under lights.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on October 30, 2021, 07:30:20 PM
Looks great under lights.

It does, Anton came to win, good drive. 
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on October 31, 2021, 05:44:46 AM
Felt a bit sorry for young Will Brown. rookie year, first time ever starting from the front row, pit stop stuff-up cost him 8 seconds and he vinished 9 seconds behind the lead.

Tyre change mistake cost him his first main game podium  :-[
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on October 31, 2021, 09:56:21 AM
Felt a bit sorry for young Will Brown. rookie year, first time ever starting from the front row, pit stop stuff-up cost him 8 seconds and he vinished 9 seconds behind the lead.

Tyre change mistake cost him his first main game podium  :-[

Yeah, good to see some new names in the lead pack with Will Brown and Brodie making a late charge
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: duggie on October 31, 2021, 08:07:58 PM
Good to see that DJR are still pulling bullShit , Wrong tyre on Car 11 for the second race , cop a fine and loose points points but leaves car 11 with a full set of new tyres for the third race . Accident my arse .
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on October 31, 2021, 08:32:09 PM
Good to see that DJR are still pulling bullShit , Wrong tyre on Car 11 for the second race , cop a fine and loose points points but leaves car 11 with a full set of new tyres for the third race . Accident my arse .

Bit hard to see it as an accident, they might be DJR but you have two teams, #11 and #17.   


But Will and Anton had a good race, just a shame the Shit tyres don't have a race in them.   
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on November 04, 2021, 01:38:56 PM
‘Shattered’: David Reynolds


(https://jollycontrarian.com/images/thumb/6/62/Naughty.jpg/450px-Naughty.jpg)
Shattered I tells ya (https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/shattered-david-reynolds-rubbed-out-of-supercars-championship-due-to-covid19-vaccination-status/news-story/ca8da0defa38d83191676735b5472238)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: duggie on November 07, 2021, 07:03:46 PM
Don't care who you support , these men racing in the rain at Sydney tonight have big balls
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on November 07, 2021, 07:49:20 PM
Don't care who you support , these men racing in the rain at Sydney tonight have big balls

Yep, sensational driving in those conditions, great racing.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on November 14, 2021, 05:17:26 PM
Is there an issue in the Red Bull camp?   

https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/raging-bulls-svg-and-whincup-swap-paint/ (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/raging-bulls-svg-and-whincup-swap-paint/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Foo on November 14, 2021, 05:52:28 PM
Well Whingecup is going to be the boss man next year.  ;)

Foo
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: NZMarkb on November 15, 2021, 07:26:16 AM
Well Whingecup is going to be the boss man next year.  ;)

Foo

That's exactly what I was thinking  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on December 03, 2021, 11:54:24 AM
something to get you in the mood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQJT4yPw9wU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQJT4yPw9wU)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Foo on December 03, 2021, 02:27:11 PM
Have certainly seen some bad ones since I first started watching in 1967.  :o

Foo
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on December 03, 2021, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: Foo
Have certainly seen some bad ones since I first started watching in 1967.  :o

Mike Raymond was a great commentator, such a great voice...
... as were few that didn't ramble Shit constantly like crompton...wonder if he plays CD's of himself on the way to the track...lol
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: D4D on December 03, 2021, 03:39:08 PM
Yawn - they should use the convertible models to make it interesting. After all the attending/viewing demographic is mid-life crisis males >:D

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-and-chevrolet-unveil-2023-v8-supercars/ (https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-and-chevrolet-unveil-2023-v8-supercars/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Pottsy on December 03, 2021, 04:59:44 PM
Great drive today by Will Brown for provisional poll.
I’m hoping the Mostert/Holdsworth duo have a good weekend.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Marcus73 on December 03, 2021, 05:19:44 PM
Gotta say that watching the Camaro and Mustang cutting laps left me a little saddened. While in recent times the cars only really resembled Aussie cars, now even that’s gone. Never gonna be the same again


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Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 03, 2021, 05:20:58 PM
only three or four years late by the time we finally get in 2023.

But they do look good

https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/first-taste-of-the-mountain-for-gen3/?cat=default (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/first-taste-of-the-mountain-for-gen3/?cat=default)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 04, 2021, 06:16:06 PM
Awesome lap by Chaz in the Top 10 Shootout.   

Fastest lap time.  2:03.3736


https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/how-mostert-broke-the-bathurst-1000-lap-record/ (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/how-mostert-broke-the-bathurst-1000-lap-record/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2021, 06:23:25 PM
Great crash in open wheelers :D
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Hairs on December 04, 2021, 07:22:46 PM
Awesome lap by Chaz in the Top 10 Shootout.   

Fastest lap time.  2:03.3736


https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/how-mostert-broke-the-bathurst-1000-lap-record/ (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/how-mostert-broke-the-bathurst-1000-lap-record/)
Had a power black out in the session, came back just to see him rip that out.
That's quick.
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: Spada on December 05, 2021, 06:46:49 AM
Bothe erebus cars disqualified from the top 10 result, they'll start 9 & 10.

The doors were underweight  ::)
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: GeoffA on December 05, 2021, 07:04:17 AM
Bothe erebus cars disqualified from the top 10 result, they'll start 9 & 10.

The doors were underweight  ::)

Looking for an improved COG.

These things will happen in the search for optimum performance....
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 05, 2021, 01:45:28 PM
Looking for an improved COG.

These things will happen in the search for optimum performance....

something like  whole 200gms.  The whole car was over the weight but as Larko said the individual doors also have a set weight.   
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: GeoffA on December 05, 2021, 07:27:58 PM
something like  whole 200gms.  The whole car was over the weight but as Larko said the individual doors also have a set weight.

Same argument could be applied to DJR getting pinged for valve clearance on 5 of 8.

No difference in the real world, but limits were exceeded....
Title: Re: Supercars 2021
Post by: alnjan on December 05, 2021, 07:53:00 PM
Great race by Chaz and Lee.   Even if SVG didn't have tyre problems I doubt he was going to catch Chaz.   

Cam Water and James Moffat 2nd and the young gun Brodie Kostecki and David Russell   3rd


Championship, SVG 1st Jamie Whincup 2nd.   I think they said Chaz jumped Will Davidson for 3rd.