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Title: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: ADTradie on February 28, 2017, 04:15:33 PM
I recently started a topic on hand winches and synthetic rope in the Mechanical section and this led to some interesting responses, so I thought I'd introduce this poll.
I thought members may be interested to see what recovery gear forum members own and generally take on an extended camping trip, especially when planning a bit of dirt and off-road travel.
Feel free to share any clever DIY recovery gear or methods you use.
(Hopefully I've set this poll up correctly to allow members to vote in several options as I'm sure most of us have much of the above gear?)
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: GBC on February 28, 2017, 04:56:00 PM
I didn't tag High lift or tirfor. I still have both but it would need to be a gnarly trip towing the trailer before I'd think to pack either of them these days. There was a time I wouldn't leave home without them, but I don't drive to find trouble much any more.
Both legitimate, but not generally taken since I have the electric winch and vehicle jack. New vehicles don't have a lot of places to attach a high lift these days.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Bird on February 28, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
vehicle mounted electric winch
 snatch strap(s)
 rated shackle(s)
 Shovel
 snatch block(s)
 extra rope (s), winch extension strap (s)
 tree trunk protector
 other
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: ADTradie on February 28, 2017, 05:25:31 PM
Hi GBC,
I ended up making an attachment for my Hi-Lift Jack so I could bolt onto a couple wheel nuts to give me a lift point at any of the 4 corners. Although I can still use the rear towbar for a rear lift with the Hi-Lift.
A.D.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Nomad on February 28, 2017, 06:09:02 PM
New vehicles don't have a lot of places to attach a high lift these days.

Lol theres a guy driving around Noosa in a new 200. no bull bar or tow bar with a high lift strapped to his roofrack.  ;D
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Bird on February 28, 2017, 06:11:06 PM
Lol theres a guy driving around Noosa in a new 200. no bull bar or tow bar with a high lift strapped to his roofrack.  ;D
biggest wank accessory in history! most are rusted in place on the roofrack
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: GBC on February 28, 2017, 06:16:33 PM
Hi GBC,
I ended up making an attachment for my Hi-Lift Jack so I could bolt onto a couple wheel nuts to give me a lift point at any of the 4 corners. Although I can still use the rear towbar for a rear lift with the Hi-Lift.
A.D.

You can do an awesome amount of panel damage using those things. Hi lifts have a great habit of leaning in at the top half way through the lift. Be careful.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: MrCruza on February 28, 2017, 06:41:29 PM
Lol theres a guy driving around Noosa in a new 200. no bull bar or tow bar with a high lift strapped to his roofrack.  ;D

All 200s have the towbar built in.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Nomad on February 28, 2017, 06:47:15 PM
D'oh I forgot about that.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Bill on February 28, 2017, 07:03:45 PM
biggest wank accessory in history! most are rusted in place on the roofrack
Mine is, that's why I'm selling it with the truck and never buying another one again.
vehicle mounted electric winch
Winch dampener
2 x snatch straps
1 x Tow strap
6 x rated shackles of various sizes
2 x snatch blocks
winch extension strap
tree trunk protector
drag chain
Max traxx
Extra rope of various diameters and lengths
2 pairs of gloves
Bill
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Hairs on February 28, 2017, 07:22:57 PM
biggest wank accessory in history! most are rusted in place on the roofrack
I thought a Chev badge on a Dunny door was  ;D


 ;D unless it gets used for other purposes other than 4wdriving.
Great for lifting up decks, verandah's, pulling posts out, just have to use your imagination  :cheers:
 
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Aussie Iron on February 28, 2017, 07:25:24 PM
vehicle mounted electric winch
snatch strap(s)
rated shackle(s)
Shovel
MaxTrax, sand tracks or similar
snatch block(s)
extra rope (s), winch extension strap (s)
tree trunk protector
other

My Other. 
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/Aussie_Iron/010a.jpg)       

(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/Aussie_Iron/015a.jpg)

8Hp Honda driving a Landrover Capstan Winch which I use 100 metres of 27000lb (12000kg) rope. Only take it on really hard runs and never had to use it yet so it tends to get left at home a lot no days. But for sure one day I won't have it and need it. Saves carrying a Tirfor.

Dan.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: alnjan on February 28, 2017, 07:34:34 PM
vehicle mounted electric winch
snatch strap x 2
rated shackle x 4 or more
snatch block x 2
winch extension strap
tree trunk protector
drag chain

Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Johnnos3003 on February 28, 2017, 07:57:59 PM
vehicle mounted electric winch
snatch strap(s)
rated shackle(s)
Shovel
MaxTrax, sand tracks or similar
snatch block(s)
extra rope (s), winch extension strap (s)
tree trunk protector
other

My Other. 
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/Aussie_Iron/010a.jpg)       

(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/Aussie_Iron/015a.jpg)

8Hp Honda driving a Landrover Capstan Winch which I use 100 metres of 27000lb (12000kg) rope. Only take it on really hard runs and never had to use it yet so it tends to get left at home a lot no days. But for sure one day I won't have it and need it. Saves carrying a Tirfor.

Dan.


wow...

I would be interested to see this in action, I use capstan winches at work and they are freaking gutless when we load them up cant imagine using one to which a vehicle out of a sticky situation.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: GBC on March 01, 2017, 04:50:09 AM
I'm not seeing any attachment points either. What sort of mechanical purchase do you need? I would have thought 3:2 at a minimum which means your recovery length is 15 odd metres?
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: ADTradie on March 01, 2017, 12:43:57 PM
Just including this link to a post by Craig on budget sand tracks that a few found interesting (for those of you who may have missed it)

http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=51429.msg888115#msg888115 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=51429.msg888115#msg888115)
Title: Re: Recovery Gear
Post by: Aussie Iron on March 01, 2017, 07:02:59 PM
I'm not seeing any attachment points either. What sort of mechanical purchase do you need? I would have thought 3:2 at a minimum which means your recovery length is 15 odd metres?

If you look at the plate that the capstan is mounted in, in the first picture you can see there are holes that I put bow shackles in. The engine has a reduction drive of 8to1 and then into the worm drive of the capstan. Believe me that it doesn't need any more mechanical purchase. I've done one mod to it since making it and that was to fit a roller that the rope goes under to lead it to the capstan which stops it from trying to tip up.  We've used it to pull tractor out of bogs, shift containers into place.

You can't stall it out and it just keeps pulling as long as you hang onto the rope to keep tension on it. The wheels and the handle are just to make it easy to move around.

Dan.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: ADTradie on March 26, 2017, 12:29:49 PM
Aren't there plenty of recovery gear options?
I stumbled across this wheel winch idea and wonder whether any of you have seen one of these in action?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4cKc4FKSM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4cKc4FKSM)

Title: More re recovery gear
Post by: ADTradie on March 26, 2017, 12:40:09 PM
I'm wondering what experience any of you may have had with a winch cradle and using an electric winch, as a portable idea so you can choose to winch from either the front or rear of your vehicle?
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: BobT on March 30, 2017, 12:12:40 PM
I have two recovery hooks up front.  So among other things, I ticked "other" for an equalisation strap.  So far, I've only ever had to use maxtrax.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: Gunsrunner on March 30, 2017, 04:07:15 PM
I ticked other. My other is, the wife. She usually stops me from exploring anything fun, when 4x4ing, if she's in the car.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: loanrangie on March 30, 2017, 04:30:06 PM
These are my standard on board items

vehicle mounted electric winch
snatch strap(s)
rated shackle(s)
Shovel
tree trunk protector


Hi-Lift jack - have one but rarely use it, have only maybe once carried it in/on the car.
 Great for lifting out fence posts though.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: #jonesy on March 31, 2017, 08:37:05 AM
I would have put a tick in
 . . . . My mates fully equipped rig.
Never go anywhere dicey without at least one of the above.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: ADTradie on April 01, 2017, 07:01:40 AM
I'm surprised someone hasn't mentioned a chainsaw as a recovery item they carry. I know some people do take one. More for chopping firewood I guess, or clearing an alternative bush track rather than getting stuck on an impassible existing track :)
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on October 30, 2017, 07:12:59 PM
Hi all, I Just found this, good topic ADTradie, I carry,
A Long handle shovel
A new Snach strap
two rated Ds
10 bits of meld mesh
A stihl Ms170 if I go north for fire wood, or up foresty tracks, illegal to carry in NPs
6m snigging chain
6x2 block of wood to put jack on
A good tool box
other heaps of spares   

 
 
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: oddsocks on October 31, 2017, 06:37:21 PM
Anyone had any experience with the bogout? https://www.bogout.com/


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Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: ADTradie on December 28, 2017, 12:37:21 PM
I've no experience with these, but the BogOut looks a useful device if only needing to make a shorter distance recovery!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muBRlKj6hpc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muBRlKj6hpc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoofMb2pnGI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoofMb2pnGI)

Then you have the bush winch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-9anLglT_I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-9anLglT_I)

I smiled at this when looking through the BogOut YouTube videos :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8U2C-2jU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8U2C-2jU4)

Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: Bird on December 28, 2017, 01:47:36 PM
I've no experience with these, but the BogOut looks a useful device if only needing to make a shorter distance recovery!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muBRlKj6hpc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muBRlKj6hpc)
Not sure how that's any advantage over a normal winch? specially if you do need a longer pull or are really stuck and need to do a double line pull etc...


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Then you have the bush winch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-9anLglT_I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-9anLglT_I)

That's been around for eon's and discussed on many forums.. must be a good reason its never taken off.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: ADTradie on December 28, 2017, 03:30:08 PM
I think the point is the BogOut may be a useful option to consider for those who don't have or don't wish to outlay for the cost of a vehicle mounted winch and bulbar. It has the advantage of being transferrable from one vehicle to another.
I do concede a bulbar and electric winch would be nice, but personally I can't justify the cost (bull bar, winch, front suspension upgrade).
I'll make do with a hand winch, maxtrax and shovel :) and trying not to get bogged in the first place.
Title: Re: Recovery Gear - Poll
Post by: Merts on June 21, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
I think the point is the BogOut may be a useful option to consider for those who don't have or don't wish to outlay for the cost of a vehicle mounted winch and bulbar. It has the advantage of being transferrable from one vehicle to another.
I do concede a bulbar and electric winch would be nice, but personally I can't justify the cost (bull bar, winch, front suspension upgrade).
I'll make do with a hand winch, maxtrax and shovel :) and trying not to get bogged in the first place.
I rarely use the winch because I'm bogged. Most often it's when I can't quite get enough traction to get through some wombat holes on a steep climb, or to assist with getting over a rock step etc. I'm unconvinced that the bogouts would be particularly useful in those situations.