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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: KeithB on June 16, 2018, 03:08:10 PM
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Has anyone heard of a decent cordless drill that you can charge from a 12 volt power outlet in the car?
I need one for lowering the jacks on my camper and would like to charge it off grid without using an inverter.
Keith
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Has anyone heard of a decent cordless drill that you can charge from a 12 volt power outlet in the car?
I need one for lowering the jacks on my camper and would like to charge it off grid without using an inverter.
Keith
What about a power converter? That’s what I use to charge my makita battery’s, don’t need a big conveter
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Sorry just read about the converter but makita do make a 12v charger but it’s pretty pricey, it was cheaper for me just to buy a power inverter, ryobi make a 12v charger for there tools to if you want to keep the price down
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And aeg make a 12v plug to
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Has anyone heard of a decent cordless drill that you can charge from a 12 volt power outlet in the car?
I need one for lowering the jacks on my camper and would like to charge it off grid without using an inverter.
Keith
A quick look tells me Ryobi, DeWalt, AEG, Bosch, Makita, Milwaukee so all the big players I just looked at. It would be cheaper to get a small inverter (they don't use many watts) though.
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Not Cordless, but we have an old Ozito type 12V cordless drill with a stuffed battery that I will be fitting a 5 > 8m heavy power cord to the drill via Anderson plugs. the cord then can be used as an extension lead for portable solar etc ..
like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymFW5NMRQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymFW5NMRQU)
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Problem with majority of the 12v dc chargers is they're generally a slow 1 to 3 hour charger and cost more than the 240v ac quick charge version. Plus they're a separate item you have to buy in addition to the the drill/battery/240v charger kit.
My fan cooled 18v Makita fast charger runs off a $100 300w inverter no worries. Pulls around 25amps during bulk charge and settles to 4-5 amps from memory. Takes around 25min for a 3ah battery.
My other little 12v Milwaukee charger could run off a 150w inverter.
For dirt cheap. Edz is on the money. Find an old 12v drill at a junk shop and add a cable.
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I'm going through this exercise atm with a set up for a UHF twin charging dock...
I want to be able to change the dock off the 12vt system in my van.... Current UHF charging is via 240vt adapter to 6vt DC.. (I do have a big 1000wt inverter - but would rather charge the UHFs with this set up)...
I have ordered from evilbay:
1 x Step Converter DC 12V to 6V 5A 30w.
$27
1 x polarised plug and socket set, (the type that has the 2 pins perpendicular to each other).
$19
1 x engraved acrylic plate 80mmx20mm "6V 5A 30w"
$9.95.
Still have to get a mounting box and a switch mech plate - (so that I can kill the step tranformer when not in use)...
The UHFs need 500 miliamps on 6V DC to charge - so at 5A its a bit of an overkill.... but some of the lessor units on evilbay, (about $4 worth), look a bit ratty to be doing work in my pride and joy... (Don't want to risk a burn down)...
OP - your application may need a transformer with more juice -- but they are all there on ebay...
i will post up some pics etc, when I have the job done....
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Milwaukee M12 has a 12 volt charging system
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I already have a cordless with 240V charger and two batteries. I think a little inverter (I have a couple) might be best and cheapest for now and will go with something better when my Chinese cheapie drill packs it in.
Thanks for the heads up everyone.
Keith
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I already have a cordless with 240V charger and two batteries. I think a little inverter (I have a couple) might be best and cheapest for now and will go with something better when my Chinese cheapie drill packs it in.
Thanks for the heads up everyone.
Keith
Kieth does your 200 have the invertor in the boot? I’ve used ours a few times but not sure if the 08 has the 240v outlet in the back
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Nope, the early models weren't that flash. I have an inverter that I can plug into the Anderson plug. But I want to use the drill at the back of the camper to raise and lower several jacks. If I can store the drill in the rear locker on charge, that will work well. Just thinking about it a bit more, I think I can get a 240 volt outlet into the rear locker from the 240V setup on board the camper. Don't know why I didn't think of that earlier.
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Hi Keith, I have a $80 PowerTeck inverter its 400watt continues and 1200watt surge it ran my Makita 25 minute battery charger easy till the ants built in it and it shorted out, I replaced it with another but it takes an hour to charge the same 3 hour battery, but the inverter runs it as well, used the inverter to charge the batteries a fair bit up the Cape last Year, Craig
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I wouldnt have thought a good cordless would need charging if your only using it for 10-20 seconds a time to lower each leg ??? Even if you were away for couple of weeks.
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I wouldnt have thought a good cordless would need charging if your only using it for 10-20 seconds a time to lower each leg ??? Even if you were away for couple of weeks.
It shouldn't, I guess if you are doing stabilisers, pegs, winding up the roof, using it on the coffee grinder :o etc with a number of setups/pack downs it might.
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I have the Ryobi One+ 18V drill, and chainsaw
And quite some time ago, I purchased a charger that charge for a cigarette lighter plug and it's been real good.
(https://image.ibb.co/gL3xpo/Ryobi_14_4_VCharger001.jpg)
I see that they still sell at Bunnings
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-14-4-18v-dual-chemistry-car-battery-charger_p6210405 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-14-4-18v-dual-chemistry-car-battery-charger_p6210405)
The main tool I use 4WDing is the Chainsaw
(https://image.ibb.co/iVS1FT/Ryobi_Chainsaw001.jpg)
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Same here I was mainly using my Makita 18volt 5in angle grinder cutting up and old trailer for the steel to fix my mates boat trailer that fell to pieces on the trip up and they are heavy on power, and once word gets out that someone has a full set of Makita 18volt tools with them there is always something that needs fixing at someones camp, Craig
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I have the Ryobi One+ 18V drill, and chainsaw
And quite some time ago, I purchased a charger that charge for a cigarette lighter plug and it's been real good.
(https://image.ibb.co/gL3xpo/Ryobi_14_4_VCharger001.jpg)
I see that they still sell at Bunnings
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-14-4-18v-dual-chemistry-car-battery-charger_p6210405 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-14-4-18v-dual-chemistry-car-battery-charger_p6210405)
The main tool I use 4WDing is the Chainsaw
(https://image.ibb.co/iVS1FT/Ryobi_Chainsaw001.jpg)
How much running time do you get out these? Been looking at the makita ones pretty sure there dual batterys, thought it would be handy for a weekend away
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How much running time do you get out these? Been looking at the makita ones pretty sure there dual batterys, thought it would be handy for a weekend away
We had a guy several years ago pull one out at camp, was perfect.. PERFECT around the campfire for trimming and firewood... he was a tradie and had several batteries in reserve if needed. Not sure what volt one it was, but I'd say 12v possibly.
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Earlier this year went to Tas for just shy of 4 weeks with the RV4.
I used landscape screws / Ryobi impact driver/drill with a 5ah battery.
It lasted the whole trip.
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If people are looking I think this is a pretty good deal if you have stock nearby, comes with a free chainsaw by redemption, would be ideal for free camping, brush cutter for long grass, blower for blowing dust off and a chainsaw for firewood. https://www.bunnings.com.au/aeg-58v-blower-and-line-trimmer-combo-kit_p0018771. (https://www.bunnings.com.au/aeg-58v-blower-and-line-trimmer-combo-kit_p0018771.) The batteries have a lot more capacity than your normal drill type ones.
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This is the makita one I have been looking at I reckon it would be good for small limbs around the camp site and not making much noise would be a bonus to
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Regarding the 18V Ryobi one chainsaw... don't waste your time. Its not useful. Anything that it will cut is easier with a small folding saw. You are welcome to mine if you want it.
My 36V husqvarna chainsaw is a different story - that works very well for lighter stuff - its not cheap, but light and easy to use. Would be fine for firewood up to 150mm. It has a car charge option too, but I just have the fast 240V charger. One battery is all you need for the husky. My real winter heating wood chainsaws are mostly petrol huskys.
No experience with the alternative 36V saws. But given how much nicer Stihl or Husky petrol saws are than the cheaper competition...
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Regarding the 18V Ryobi one chainsaw... don't waste your time. Its not useful. Anything that it will cut is easier with a small folding saw. You are welcome to mine if you want it.
My 36V husqvarna chainsaw is a different story - that works very well for lighter stuff - its not cheap, but light and easy to use. Would be fine for firewood up to 150mm. It has a car charge option too, but I just have the fast 240V charger. One battery is all you need for the husky. My real winter heating wood chainsaws are mostly petrol huskys.
No experience with the alternative 36V saws. But given how much nicer Stihl or Husky petrol saws are than the cheaper competition...
Yeah I myself have a sthil saw for camping, just been a few times around a campsite where I’ve seen a few limbs and didn’t want to fire up the saw to upset other campers where a battery one would of been good
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Regarding the 18V Ryobi one chainsaw... don't waste your time. Its not useful. Anything that it will cut is easier with a small folding saw. You are welcome to mine if you want it.
What do ya want for it?
Rod
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Yeah I myself have a sthil saw for camping, just been a few times around a campsite where I’ve seen a few limbs and didn’t want to fire up the saw to upset other campers where a battery one would of been good
Battery ones are perfect for this.
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Regarding the 18V Ryobi one chainsaw... don't waste your time. Its not useful. Anything that it will cut is easier with a small folding saw. You are welcome to mine if you want it.
I got one second had for $25 in as new condition, I only wanted the battery and charger, but I pulled it out the other weekend and cut up some hardwood sleepers that had been in the garden. I was really surprised, its not fast, and a logdog would make it easier, but its got plenty of torque and my neighbours loved the firewood. As far as not worrying about starting a 2 stroke and noise I thought it was a winner. I normally take reciprocating saw on trips, will be throwing this in for sure from now on!
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This is the makita one I have been looking at I reckon it would be good for small limbs around the camp site and not making much noise would be a bonus to
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I've got this one. Had about an hours use in total around home pruning trees. Works an absolute treat. Cut up to around 150mm dia. no worries, with little effort. Will definitely become part of the camping kit.
I think this one is about to be superseded by a new 18v brushless version (smaller and lighter) for the same money. Check the website. Maybe look at that one, or wait for a "reduced to clear" sale.
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How much running time do you get out these? Been looking at the makita ones pretty sure there dual batterys, thought it would be handy for a weekend away
I can only answer for the Ryobi -- I am not sure of the actual run time but it seems O.K., I mainly use it for track clearing, and I carry 2 4AH batteries. My Ryobi saw has a nickname of beaver, as it's a bit slow and it's always a welcomed sight when a bit of track needs clearing.
Recently I have lent the saw out just after the last cyclone, trees down everywhere -- it's what it is, about the only thing i don't like, it leaks chain oil, but i think all chainsaws do that.
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You could have mine. It struggles to cut a match stick in half.
Completely useless.
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You could have mine. It struggles to cut a match stick in half.
Completely useless.
which make/ model is it?
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I have one of these, had it for a few years now.
I have 2 x 2.5ah batteries.
Get about 10 - 22 cuts per battery of redgum / ironbark /yellowbox at 8/10" round.
Not as fast as my Husky but no fuel / spills and deadly quiet.
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Gone a little off topic here.
I use a makita 18v drill for the legs on our van all the time. If that's all you're using it for it'll last ages before needing recharging. I also take a spare battery and have never needed to recharge it out bush.
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which make/ model is it?
18V Ryobi. The chain moves way too slow. Any 4 - 6" log would take 2 plus minutes even with a freshly sharpened blade. It's slower than a good sharp hand saw. I use a reciprocating saw now. Still not great but much faster than the Ryobi.
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18V Ryobi. The chain moves way too slow. Any 4 - 6" log would take 2 plus minutes even with a freshly sharpened blade. It's slower than a good sharp hand saw. I use a reciprocating saw now. Still not great but much faster than the Ryobi.
There's a bit of difference in the ryobi plus one saws. The brushed ones only have a chain speed of about 3.6 meters a second and the brushless runs at 9 meters a second so quite a difference.