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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: DannyG on February 08, 2016, 09:26:53 AM
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Tassie has a few privately owned camping destinations besides the usual caravan parks such as http://www.riversedgecamping.com.au (http://www.riversedgecamping.com.au) which is a really nice camp ground that has been built up and developed over the years but we dont seem to have a 4wd park like the big island has.
So I am wondering what makes a good camp ground or camping experience and especially what would be a good recreation layout for 4wds.
For us camping needs the following.....
A nice grassy flat area to set up.
A fire pit.
Wood supply.
Water in the way of a river/creek/stream or beach. Ideally able to swim in a safe environment and perhaps use a kayak.
Cheap or free!
Quiet and preferably a private feel.
Toilets and showers perhaps?
In regards to a 4wd park or more so a 4wd play ground I was thinking maybe a decent snotty hill, some obstacles to negotiate and perhaps a mud pit. And then there may be room to put some single tracks in for mountain bikes. I would consider an area for motorbikes but the property is probably not large enough to get them out of the way to remove the sound so that would ruin the camping experience.
Clearly this thread is going somewhere but at this stage it is just some research. We may have the opportunity to purchase a large property which is mainly bush and some cleared land that I think could be turned into something special utilising the streams that run through it. I think you could easily set up around 20-40 camping sites in amongst the bush so each site would have a feel of privacy with the potential to carve out quite a few more if it was necessary.
The camping sites would be typically in quite thick bush with around 20-50 mtrs between each site. Obviously they would be cleared so there is enough room to set up and also a path would be cleared to the rivers edge so each site had its own private access.
So sites could accomodate a group and some would be for one camper only. Would you leave it as a natural bush setting or would you clear large areas and develop a camping ground thats open like a caravan park??
Give me your thoughts and ideas on what could make this work or not work.
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Ok, what you have described is exactly what I was thinking of. ..
Suggest you camp some time at West Kunderang (2 hrs out of Armidale) - as it hits all of your list "and then even much better"..... (Only item they dont have is the showers)....
One thing of high importance to some is the "Robinson Caruso" feel... where you feel totally remoted from the children screaming; dogs yapping; generators rumbling; and the duf, dufs... emanating from inconsiderate campers otherwise nearby. ...
West Kunderang does this well.... Where the camps are about 0.5 - 1km apart..... it is a very private and serine experience...
Another one is "Base Camp" -- (no relation); on the Sunshine Coast QLD ..
You need to do research on www.youcamp.com (now part of the Super Retail Group) - as this is where your "competition" resides; and maybe a great way for you to promote your potential business. ..
Cheers
BaseCamp
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Ok, what you have described is exactly what I was thinking of. ..
Suggest you camp some time at West Kunderang (2 hrs out of Armidale) - as it hits all of your list "and then even much better"..... (Only item they dont have is the showers)....
One thing of high importance to some is the "Robinson Caruso" feel... where you feel totally remoted from the children screaming; dogs yapping; generators rumbling; and the duf, dufs... emanating from inconsiderate campers otherwise nearby. ...
West Kunderang does this well.... Where the camps are about 0.5 - 1km apart..... it is a very private and serine experience...
Another one is "Base Camp" -- (no relation); on the Sunshine Coast QLD ..
You need to do research on www.youcamp.com (http://www.youcamp.com) (now part of the Super Retail Group) - as this is where your "competition" resides; and maybe a great way for you to promote your potential business. ..
Cheers
BaseCamp
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You forget cats meowing ;D
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No generators.
Good luck with it.. few dudes on Outers looked into it in Victoria few years back, went nowhere as theres plenty of free wheeling and camping around the same area...
Id start with insurance, that will tell you if you should even bother with the dream.
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No generators.
Good luck with it.. few dudes on Outers looked into it in Victoria few years back, went nowhere as theres plenty of free wheeling and camping around the same area...
Id start with insurance, that will tell you if you should even bother with the dream.
Yeh there is a lot of free camping around our area as well if you know where to look. Public liability and what ever other insurances are required may be the deciding factor as is council approval of such a thing.
Its not so much a dream its more just an idea to utilise the property rather than having it just sitting there as an investment. Its not somewhere we can build on and live for at least another 6-10 years I think but its certainly a place we would love to live one day, its just not convenient at the moment.
We were mainly thinking of just setting it up for free camping to begin with. You know, offer it to swaggers who are in Tassie for instance and use it for our own family and friends but somewhere down the track there is potential to continually tidy it up and offer it as a nice place to camp cheaply. There are no grand thoughts of making a living out of it. Well it would be nice but realistically it is the sort of thing that would take a decade or two to build up and develop into something that could be called an income so if we were to push on with it, it would be something more for the kids to inherit if thats the way we went with it, which is unlikely.
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Be careful Danny, word spreads like wild fire on the internet. Policing a property against a small % of no gooders can lead to more headaches than one would care for.
No one ever intends to sue for damages on a private property until they actually find themselves financially hurt due to their own stupidity.
Many privately owned camping properties need the camper to sign a bit of paperwork of agreement drawn up by a legitimate lawyer prior to being allowed to stay.
Careful, careful, careful!!!!!!!!!
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Check iut the "sign your life away" :) disclaimer Gordon Country gets you to sign. ...
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Also, running a 4wd destination can be a full time occupation. Cityview 4wd park near Brisbane has just shut down because the owner was sick of not having any weekends to himself as he couldn't find anyone he could trust to run it for him. Also couldn't find a buyer prepared to commit the time required.
Its now reverting to a cattle property. Pity as it was a ripper 4wd destination.. :(
Further, if you want to have a 4wd park you need to have some decent tracks. Recently spent some time at a park just over the border in northern NSW that has heaps of tracks advertised. Spent the entire weekend in 4H. Yes they have a playground for the hard core but the tracks themselves could only be rated as easy so not much fun for the rest of us.
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Be careful Danny, word spreads like wild fire on the internet. Policing a property against a small % of no gooders can lead to more headaches than one would care for.
No one ever intends to sue for damages on a private property until they actually find themselves financially hurt due to their own stupidity.
Many privately owned camping properties need the camper to sign a bit of paperwork of agreement drawn up by a legitimate lawyer prior to being allowed to stay.
Careful, careful, careful!!!!!!!!!
Good point, everybody says she will be alright mate......until the expenses get out of control.
I have access to a property at Boonah....I have run two 4WD events for a forum. My mate approached his insurer and the advice he got was
- do not charge anything for the access, this is where the biggest problems start
- a waiver doesn't always exempt the owner
- I was lucky enough that a few attending were part of a 4WD Club, the club was happy enough to sponsor the event and have all attendees sign in as a visitor/temporary member for the day (the clubs insurance company advised them this sits under the policy)
My mate of 20 years still gets nervous when I camp out there hoping nothing goes wrong......
I still thinking about seeing if there would be interest in a myswag trip to the property.
- 200m water front access to lake maroon
- 2 x dams
- spring fed creek
- tracks.......not overly difficult, a bit overgrown as we don't drive them very regularly.
- 1500 acres
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I still thinking about seeing if there would be interest in a myswag trip to the property.
The administration, ownership, etc of the whole thing would add a nightmare for the forum owners...
And with members coming and going daily, arguments of whose what is whose would suck.
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The administration, ownership, etc of the whole thing would add a nightmare for the forum owners...
And with members coming and going daily, arguments of whose what is whose would suck.
Yes and no........there probably wouldn't be to many members out there that would approach their club for cover, I got lucky on the two events (each event had approx. 50 cars) and forums are just that..... a forum
If I ran it it would be old school approach and wouldn't impose on the forum, petty much like any other trip that is organized on myswag
Apart from the two big events, I also arranged over the last 10 years access for a bush survival course, Easter camps and waterskiing for groups where i didn't personally know everybody.
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First off YouCamp are no part of Super Retail Group.
They are individual farmers and land owners.
Have a look at Woodleigh Station.
They have a really nice setup with campsites all over the property along the river and showers and toilets up by the homestead.
There are a couple bigger sites for groups as well as some smaller sites for only 1 or 2 campers.
Bill
No 4wd tracks though.
Emu creek is another nice place you might want to have a look at.
Bill
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First off YouCamp are no part of Super Retail Group.
They are individual farmers and land owners.
Have a look at Woodleigh Station.
They have a really nice setup with campsites all over the property along the river and showers and toilets up by the homestead.
There are a couple bigger sites for groups as well as some smaller sites for only 1 or 2 campers.
Bill
No 4wd tracks though.
Emu creek is another nice place you might want to have a look at.
Bill
http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/super-retail-group-adds-fixed-price-car-service-and-youcamp-to-its-stable/news-story/9cde6708dccadc998edc6df28916f7d3 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/super-retail-group-adds-fixed-price-car-service-and-youcamp-to-its-stable/news-story/9cde6708dccadc998edc6df28916f7d3)
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Ok, what you have described is exactly what I was thinking of. ..
Suggest you camp some time at West Kunderang (2 hrs out of Armidale) - as it hits all of your list "and then even much better"..... (Only item they dont have is the showers)....
One thing of high importance to some is the "Robinson Caruso" feel... where you feel totally remoted from the children screaming; dogs yapping; generators rumbling; and the duf, dufs... emanating from inconsiderate campers otherwise nearby. ...
West Kunderang does this well.... Where the camps are about 0.5 - 1km apart..... it is a very private and serine experience...
Another one is "Base Camp" -- (no relation); on the Sunshine Coast QLD ..
You need to do research on www.youcamp.com (http://www.youcamp.com) (now part of the Super Retail Group) - as this is where your "competition" resides; and maybe a great way for you to promote your potential business. ..
Cheers
BaseCamp
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Thanks for the tips! :cheers:
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Loveday 4x4 Adventure Park here in SA is a setup that has gone from something similar to what you sound like you want to achieve into a place that also holds regular events that I guess are designed to help the income as it is now a full-time business.
The campgrounds along the river are now well worn but still offers great access to the Murray, has 4wd tracks to cater for all levels as well as offering sand, river flat mud, rocky hill climbs and even competition tracks to play on.
Not suggesting every private 4wd park should have all of this, as it would be a hell of a lot of work, money and time, but it sure is nice to have one close by.
http://www.loveday4x4adventures.com (http://www.loveday4x4adventures.com)
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/super-retail-group-adds-fixed-price-car-service-and-youcamp-to-its-stable/news-story/9cde6708dccadc998edc6df28916f7d3 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/super-retail-group-adds-fixed-price-car-service-and-youcamp-to-its-stable/news-story/9cde6708dccadc998edc6df28916f7d3)
I stand corrected.
My apologies.
Bill
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
Theres a lot to consider really. We think initially we will build a large garage on the property with water tank, septic system so it has a loo and some solar. That way we have an area to have gatherings with family and friends at least.
And over the next year or two we will slowly clear areas that are perfect for camping an extend our invitations to swaggers who are in Tassie and that sort of thing, no charge of course ;) We might put a combination lock on the gate so friends can get in easily.
I think we will give the 4wd thing a miss and just concentrate on the potential to use as a camping area. Besides the river/creek on the property it has beautiful beach on one side and 1000's of hectares of state forest on the other side so there is no shortage of things to do within a 5-10 minute drive of the place :)
Security is the only thing that concerns me slightly. It is quite a while away from where we live and I am worried about thieves breaking into our garage. I mean, it shouldn't happen in this area but its secluded enough to make it easy if someone was that way inclined.
We will probably be there every weekend for a while at least until the novelty wore off but its the times where we are away for a long time that I need to find a solution to protect the place.
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Hey Danny.
Have a look at http://www.cullendore.com/ (http://www.cullendore.com/), because they've apparently done something similar to what you're talking about (& I'm sure there's lots more!).
May be able to pass on some hints, tips & pitfalls? :D
Good luck with the idea - it's a bit far away or I'd come check it out!
Graeme
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
Theres a lot to consider really.
Security is the only thing that concerns me slightly. It is quite a while away from where we live and I am worried about thieves breaking into our garage. I mean, it shouldn't happen in this area but its secluded enough to make it easy if someone was that way inclined.
We will probably be there every weekend for a while at least until the novelty wore off but its the times where we are away for a long time that I need to find a solution to protect the place.
This was the problem for Cindy (owner) at West Kunderang... Until they had someone in residence watching the property (6,000 hectors); there were always break ins and bogans etc; messing the place up; camping illegally on their private property; leaving litter everywhere, etc... Even cattle duffing at one stage...
Talking about security - if it was my property; I would want to be putting in an alarm system with back to base monitoring... (via 3G and Yagi antenna); automatically activated IR cameras and LED flood lights; alarm tripped audio chips warning of "imminent armed response" - like Apocalypse Now ... IR trail cameras to document their retreat... etc etc
But all of this is not so much for the security of it - heck; for me it would be more about being a thoroughly immersing hobby - "just for the sheer joy of it" ;D
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you're rich
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you're rich
I wish...about to be brokerer ;)
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Would homeless people be able to live there?
Please......
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Would homeless people be able to live there?
Please......
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Sold already has it?
But no, I doubt there's room for you ;)
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Sold already has it?
But no, I doubt there's room for you ;)
and his rubber blow up girlfriend
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Dragging up an old thread but an update is in order!
We did buy some land but no where near enough to fulfil this idea. Had we bought land where we were initially thinking the value of it would have allowed us to get something big enough to turn into a 4wd'ing/camping type park but we ended up buying near Launceston so it wasnt cost effective. So instead of having some land just to 'play' on, we bought for the future and at a location that we want to live when the youngest finishes highschool in a couple of years.
But having said that, we have a nice little 4 acre patch 10 minutes from Launceston with no real close neighbours and a really nice rural and river view. You can see the city lights at night in the distance and your surrounded by a nice patch of bush.
We are about to have some extensive excavation work done to clear the under growth around the tree's and cut some nice flat pads into it so when all thats done, any visiting Myswaggers are welcome to use it as a base if they wish while down here. Just send me a PM and we can discuss timing etc.
No decent pics yet but heres one to give you an idea.
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Congratulations.
Hope you get many years of happiness.
Cheers
Brian
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that's a nice thing to do - on behalf of everyone - thanks! :cheers:
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Thanks and no problems, its just under 2 years until we start building on it, its going to be sitting there vacant for a while so someone may as well get some use out of it.
Although Im hoping to have the garage built before then but that shouldn't effect my offer in any way :)
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That's a great offer Danny. :cheers:
Would this be an ongoing thing, or do you think it might slow down a bit when you have the house up and running and your living out there?
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Might get in contact with you for a new years trip Danny, thanks for putting up the offer
GG
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Don't fall for it!! It's a trap!!
Danny's actually an axe-weilding mass-murderer..... :o :o :o
Nice offer Danny... :cup: :cup:
:cheers:
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...betta get me a bigger
boat axe then :laugh: ;D :angel:
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That's a great offer Danny. :cheers:
Would this be an ongoing thing, or do you think it might slow down a bit when you have the house up and running and your living out there?
Good question and one I cant answer yet. The reason being is that even though its 4 acres, for the most part at the moment the larger percentage of it isnt easily accessed while towing a camper. I mean yes you can drive onto it but there is a bit of a hill to negotiate to get to the only other flat area besides up the top where we will be building.
So, in time I may put a second driveway into the property or perhaps put some road base down so I can get easier access to the bottom half in cars etc but at this stage we are happy to use the acreage as a vista so to speak and give us space from the neighbours more so than to grow sheep or use it for other reasons.
But having said all that, up the top where we are building it should be around half an acre or so, so there would be plenty of room there for campers, I guess its just a matter of how we set out the house and garage etc in that space. So watch this space :laugh:
Might get in contact with you for a new years trip Danny, thanks for putting up the offer
GG
Sounds good and if all goes well which it should, I cant see why we wouldnt have our excavation work finished by then, so send me a PM when it gets a bit closer. It will be a good place to set up while your exploring the northern end of the state. :D
Don't fall for it!! It's a trap!!
Danny's actually an axe-weilding mass-murderer..... :o :o :o
Nice offer Danny... :cup: :cup:
:cheers:
As if........here is my pic in case anyone wanted to know what I look like ;D
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/16/25BCD9CF00000578-2955690-Mick_s_back_-m-135_1424099028936.jpg)
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No decent pics yet but heres one to give you an idea.
Nice pic Danny. Looks like a very nice place :cup: :cup:
Is it Brokeback Mountain?? ;D
:cheers:
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Nice pic Danny. Looks like a very nice place :cup: :cup:
Is it Brokeback Mountain?? ;D
:cheers:
:cup: :cup: :cup:
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Hi All
been watching this one with interest
has anyone looked into what you need to get to be able to set up something like the youcamp/ private camp ground
or setting up your property to have campers or caravans pay to stay
i have been googling the crap out of it and starting to get a bit frustrated
was thinking of a trip to see the local councillor in my area but that's not the area im looking at
so far i have been able to find a small amount of info on caravan parks but not wanting to set up something that big
was going to limit it to approx 4 caravan sized sites
ive given myself 3 month to figure it out but jumping the first hurdle is proving to be a big PITA
any info would be much appreciated
:cheers:
Adam
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Nice pic Danny. Looks like a very nice place :cup: :cup:
Is it Brokeback Mountain?? ;D
:cheers:
;D It is a bit...well not the brokeback part but it certainly has a mountainish feel about it. We will work on the brokeback part when I sucker some myswagger gents into using it :-*
Hi All
been watching this one with interest
has anyone looked into what you need to get to be able to set up something like the youcamp/ private camp ground
or setting up your property to have campers or caravans pay to stay
i have been googling the crap out of it and starting to get a bit frustrated
was thinking of a trip to see the local councillor in my area but that's not the area im looking at
so far i have been able to find a small amount of info on caravan parks but not wanting to set up something that big
was going to limit it to approx 4 caravan sized sites
ive given myself 3 month to figure it out but jumping the first hurdle is proving to be a big PITA
any info would be much appreciated
:cheers:
Adam
Thats a difficult question to answer but in Tassie you would need approval from your local council (which is complicated) and certainly you need public liability insurance which in my case is easy because its a part of my existing insurance policy but in the instance of commercially running a park for the public it would be a lot dearer and more complex.
Besides that, im not sure what else would need to be done.
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Hi All
been watching this one with interest
has anyone looked into what you need to get to be able to set up something like the youcamp/ private camp ground
or setting up your property to have campers or caravans pay to stay
i have been googling the crap out of it and starting to get a bit frustrated
was thinking of a trip to see the local councillor in my area but that's not the area im looking at
so far i have been able to find a small amount of info on caravan parks but not wanting to set up something that big
was going to limit it to approx 4 caravan sized sites
ive given myself 3 month to figure it out but jumping the first hurdle is proving to be a big PITA
any info would be much appreciated
:cheers:
Adam
theres probably good reasons why they aren't everywhere... dealing with councils and insurance companies would be enough to put me off.. LOL
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Hi All
been watching this one with interest
has anyone looked into what you need to get to be able to set up something like the youcamp/ private camp ground
or setting up your property to have campers or caravans pay to stay
i have been googling the crap out of it and starting to get a bit frustrated
was thinking of a trip to see the local councillor in my area but that's not the area im looking at
so far i have been able to find a small amount of info on caravan parks but not wanting to set up something that big
was going to limit it to approx 4 caravan sized sites
ive given myself 3 month to figure it out but jumping the first hurdle is proving to be a big PITA
any info would be much appreciated
:cheers:
Adam
You'll have to start by having a chat with your local council where the property is. That will determine your next step.
We've stayed on a number of Youcamp properties and they've all been great.
Already got a spot booked on a 40 acre private property, camping on the river bank for our family Christmas fishing trip this year.
We where arranging a camp at a vineyard a couple of years ago and the owner was having heaps of problems with his local council.
From what I understand, he had no facilities on site for campers and the council had concerns with him letting people bush camp near the water course that fed into the council owned lake near by.
We had to agree that we where fully self contained (with our own toilet), but we don't/didn't have anything other then a shovel for toilet facilities. He sounded like a nice guy and we didn't want to cause him any dramas, so chose not to stay there.
Each council will have their own regulations regarding camping on private property. I'm guessing the more rural the council, the easier the process will be.
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has anyone looked into what you need to get to be able to set up something like the youcamp/ private camp ground
or setting up your property to have campers or caravans pay to stay
Adam
As Danny said, I think it would depend on the council in the area you're interested in ???
I remember seeing something a couple of months ago that a council on NSW South Coast (Shoalhaven?) were talking about cracking down on Youcamp sites as they didn't pay enough >:(
Having said that, I was playing on the Youcamp site a little while back & there was someone with a house at Lota (I think?) listed that could handle 1 tent or trailer in their back-yard! :o
Maybe check Youcamp for the right area & ask someone who is listed there / nearby - they've obviously been through it there so must now how it was done?
Graeme
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I've camped at a couple of you camp facilities including:
west kunderang; and base camp (no relation to me); at Yandina.
The Yandina folk were very informative; and explained a lot about how the whole thing trades - including what's involved with the insurance etc...
As already suggested - maybe give the youcamp operators; (*whom are now part of the Super Retail Group conglomerate, fyi*) - a call, and quiz them...
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When we thought about getting a block large enough to set it up as a 4wd/camping type park finding the right block at the right price was pretty easy in Tassie. Down here there are a lot of areas that are out of the way and no one would want to live on them while working but would want to retire there, so the land is cheap.
You can easily find large acreage thats undeveloped for under 100k.
However at the same time that we were entertaining that idea we were also looking at the option of one day moving closer to work/college etc but wanted to live in a rural style setting, be only a few minutes from 'town' and have a bit of space around us. It has taken two years to find a property that fits that description and was within what we were able to spend. So large acreage where no one can live while working= cheap and very easy to find. Small acreage within 10 minutes or so from Launceston = very very difficult to find at the right price.
So all you rich 'mainlanders' can cash in your ashtray change and buy some property down here ;D It will help my future ;)
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So all you rich 'mainlanders' can cash in your ashtray change and buy some property down here ;D It will help my future ;)
I've actually thought of that one myself... From Brisbane to Hobart including 60 minutes to get to the airport BNE and transit etc is only about 5 hours! ...(Less time than a drive BNE to Kingfisfer Bay FI actually...) And if you crack cheap flights to Tas = happy days...
Only problem - is that "my ranch" must also serve as a BOL - and in a SHTF scenario - who would want to be relying on 21 century jet age transportation... LOL....
(Almost had the ideal locale a few years ago; back out the back of Grafton.... 40 acres; nice quality one room shack on it; 100% totally surrounded by NPs and SF; (access via locked gate SF fire trail only); permanent stream; "park-like" grassy setting; no phone or power..... The "negatives" being that some future "greenie problem" could see you locked out of your own land; and there was no permanent building entitlement - meaning you couldn't *legally* live there... (just a weekender)..
The property had been on the market for 9 months... but by the time I had discovered it - it was too late - It sold for $90K!!!!
:'( :'( :'(
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I doubt that Super Cheap own any of the properties used for camp sites....
As the article stated, " has bought a camping booking website .....".
Probably gets a commission from bookings and advertising....
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the youcamp operators; (*whom are now part of the Super Retail Group conglomerate, fyi*) - a call, and quiz them...
^^^^ Yes, correct - as already said.. eg: www.youcamp.com (http://www.youcamp.com) = a booking website JVed with the Super Retail Group...
:laugh: ;D ;D
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Just a bit of an update on this for those that showed an interest in using it.
We have just completed a massive amount of excavation up the top of the property where we will build our home and or garage. This excavated area is around 2000 or so square metres so it will fit one or 20 campers :D
Yes it is all dirt at the moment and to be honest I dont think Ill spend too much money at this stage to make it 'pretty' because the builder will only dig it all up again at some stage but I will make a small part of it a bit nicer to set up some campers.
Theres about 50 or so tonne of dead wood on the property and Im taking over a 44 gallon drum as a fire pit and a 1000 ltr water tank so there are a few creature comforts ;)
Heres a few during pics........
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looking good........
Can I suggest a Joolca HWS and shower setup.....
Best thing we did at our property.
Keep us posted,
Brian
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how awesomes that
mate that will be magic for you when your able to put the house on
and i love a good bit of earth work much easier with heavy movers
nice looking soil too
:cheers:
Adam
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Thanks for the comments.
We spent a couple of days out there last week to start cutting the wood thats laying around so we set the camper up! Im sure the neighbours think we are hillbillies ;D
Very rough and raw and this stage but we love being there and we have the rest of our lives to landscape it.
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/DannyG13_photos/Dilston%20Property/PB100052_zpsuqsiuhc2.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/DannyG13_photos/Dilston%20Property/PB100050_zpsgmmnwt07.jpg)
One of the many tree's that we are cutting up. In fact there is over 60 tonne of wood laying on the property in log form. It is too much for us so we are negotiating with a bloke who has a loader and and truck to remove it. Apparently its worth around $20-25 a tonne so we are keeping about 10 tonne for ourselves (which we have made a good start of cutting up) and selling the rest.
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/DannyG13_photos/Dilston%20Property/PB100051_zpsxjklndko.jpg)
And the city lights in the distance at night
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We have heaps more pics but im sure no one is as enthusiastic as us so Ill only post them when the myswag camping area starts to look a big better ;)
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Looking good sir...
Bill
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Well done Danny, you have to start somewhere.
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Thanks for the comments.
We spent a couple of days out there last week to start cutting the wood thats laying around so we set the camper up! Im sure the neighbours think we are hillbillies ;D
We're still known as "the campers" in our valley. :)
I still say it's the best way to get the finer details of the house sorted before you start building.
We camped on our block for about 6 months before deciding on the best spot for the house pad. Then after we cut the pad we camped on that for another 6 months or more while we sorted the finer details of the orientation and window placement.
I'm glad we did, so happy with how we catch all of the winter sun into the lounge room and block the baking afternoon summer sun from the living areas.
Looks like a great spot in an awesome part of the country.
Well done.
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Soooo 12 months later and work has been slow. Mainly due to getting the right excavator driver that would do some excavations AND deal with all the wood AND do some raking to clear all the under growth (some of which is on quite a slope).
We had a few tonnes of wood to deal with. Too much for us to handle so we did a deal with the excavator bloke to deduct the royalties from the final bill. Im not sure how that worked out for us but I am sure the bloke doing the work always gets the better deal ;)
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We also had some large rocks to deal with. A couple of them are going to have to be popped as they are just too big to handle. But some of them we will leave and use as a part of the 'look' or landscaping......which basically means we are sick of dealing with them so they are staying.
(http://www.ozisuzu.com.au/album/uploads/big/506e1673371bdb2674da13cfe5617dea.jpg)
But we did get all the masses of wattle trees and epic amounts of under growth removed on the hill so it will look a lot nicer looking down to the bottom paddock now.
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The part that probably matters the most right up the top is now level and large enough to fit a house and shed. I havent done the final measurements but it has around 1200 mtrs of usable area and considering the house is going to be hanging off the side of the hill that will leave plenty of room......too much room actually but we will do something with it.
(http://www.ozisuzu.com.au/album/uploads/big/e98a2b796caa46ff5288aca8bf5ce3fb.jpg)
Depending on some engineering issues we are doing a similar thing to our neighbour in regards to hanging the house off the side of the hill. They live up the road further and built their house on a massive drop off. All their 'flat' area is out the front and their back area is basically a cliff.
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Heres a view from the neighbours balcony. Our property is in amongst the trees. We cant see them and they cant see us....perfect.
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Thats about it for now. Im taking a bobcat out there for the next few days to dress up some nice big flat grassy areas, continue with the clean up and to get all the wood out of the piles that the excavator guy left (he only took the big creamy logs) theres no point burning off good wood.
Hopefully in the next 12 months we will start building. In a perfect world we will be out there by Feb of 2019 when the youngest starts college in the area.
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I changed the title to suit the way the thread went......... 8)
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Bloody Beautiful outlook too .. Container house !! :cup:
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Soooo here we are 7 months later and we have finally started. The start date is a little early but the builder is having a massive easement put in at the top of the property and some more large rocks removed.
A bit of a before and after comparison shot from when we bought the place to how it is now, even though it will change a lot this week as they remove all those large rocks on the left hand side.
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And here are the house plans if anyones interested :-*
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Those with a keen eye will notice the orientation of the house in relation to North is not ideal but the view is out to the south so thats where we wanted the main areas. We are having a ducted heat pump system ;)
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Hi,
but your carport will be brilliant for a late afternoon bbq.
Cheers
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Hi,
but your carport will be brilliant for a late afternoon bbq.
Cheers
Yes that is what we are hoping. They have a fancy new name for those under cover area's now, they call them alfresco ;D
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And here are the house plans if anyones interested :-*
Not interested.....
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Not interested.....
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lol where’s my tv?
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lol where’s my tv?
Gumtree
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Noice.
Two things
What are the hand drawn squares with a X in them in the robes and
Your sheds not big enough ;D
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The " X " is his signature for the alterations in the plans. I have seen people sign with an X a few times, I call these people "special"
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Noice.
Two things
What are the hand drawn squares with a X in them in the robes and
Your sheds not big enough ;D
Sorry I missed this.
The X is to show what side to put the drawers/shelves in the wardrobes I think!
(https://www.ozisuzu.com.au/album/uploads/big/6ecd45f88b3d65f8b9731a633bac8dfc.jpg)
I agree my sheds not as big as I initially wanted but itll be the biggest shed Ive ever had and what the plans do not show is the extra 2.5mtr lean to off the side and end of it that is going to be my toilet and store area. So its effectively a 14 x 9ish so Ill be ok 8) I may update my plans pics when I get them back from council..........................so it could be a while
We are still doing earth works up there. They broke an excavator using the rock breaker on Monday (rock breakers are great for hire machines) and its been raining for days, so at the moment it is a total sloppy mess.
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(https://www.ozisuzu.com.au/album/uploads/big/1ab6a36e1dad526104ec4e103dc4ebd8.jpg)
The " X " is his signature for the alterations in the plans. I have seen people sign with an X a few times, I call these people "special"
lol Its ok I wont mention how you and your mate keep warm next Saturday night while me and Marcus are using our diesel heaters in our campers >:D